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The Pediatrician’s Role in Suicide Prevention
When she was 5 years old, Katherine Edson, LCSW, tried to end her life by drowning herself. “I was enduring severe physical and sexual abuse, and it had become unbearable,” she said. “I waded into a lake, knowing there was a point when it would become too deep and I’d go under.”
As she was walking toward the deeper water, it occurred to her that if she died, she wouldn’t be able to eat Rice Krispies again. “I thought, ‘no more Snap, Crackle, and Pop’ — the three little mascots on the cereal box — and I felt sad,” said Edson, a New York–based retired therapist. “But I still kept walking.”
A man on the shore saw her disappear under the water and pulled her out. “I remember vomiting a lot of water and I remember that the man had tattoos, but I don’t remember how I felt to be alive. I was just numb.”
Edson thinks there were clues her pediatrician missed. “We lived in a small Southern town. Everyone knew my parents were alcoholics. I was very dissociated and withdrawn in general and during pediatric visits. My affect broadcasted that something was wrong, but no one asked if I was okay.”
She acknowledged that professionals in those days “weren’t tuned in to mental health issues in kids. At least there’s more awareness today and hopefully more training — especially since it seems like more kids are trying to end their lives today than when I was growing up.”
Alarming Statistics
According to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), suicide is the second leading cause of death for people aged 10-24 years. Data from Children’s Hospital Association’s Pediatric Health Information System revealed that suicide attempts, ideation, and self-injury have become the most common mental health conditions seen in the emergency departments (EDs) of children’s hospitals, with a 166% increase in ED visits for suicide attempts in children aged 5-18 years, between 2016 and 2022.
Psychiatrist Helen Egger, MD, chief medical officer and co-founder of Little Otter, a specialty pediatric and whole family digital mental health company, recently coauthored a report analyzing data on 1434 children who completed a screening session and comprehensive diagnostic assessment at Little Otter from May 2023 to February 2024 (n = 1016 children aged 8-14 years and n = 418 aged 3-7 years).
Almost one fifth of the older children presented with current positive suicide risk (suicidal ideation and/or behavior in the last month), while 6% of the younger age group presented with current suicide risk. The youngest was 5 years old.
Points of Contact
“It’s known that most children who die by suicide had a recent visit with a health professional — a pediatrician or child mental health professional. It’s unlikely that the child was fine and then, a few weeks later, stopped being fine. The likelihood is that the child wasn’t fine during that visit, but the clinician didn’t ask about mental health,” Egger said.
Christine Crawford, MD, MPH, associate medical director of the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI), said that “When you’re working with kids, anything can come up. Be prepared to navigate the conversation. You can never predict who the patient will feel most comfortable disclosing these thoughts to.”
Pediatricians are the physicians most likely to be seen by children, and it’s important for pediatricians to inquire about a child’s mood, especially during child visits, according to Crawford, author of the book You Are Not Alone for Parents and Caregivers: The NAMI Guide to Navigating Your Child’s Mental Health.
Donald E. Greydanus, MD, professor and founding chair, Department of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine, Homer Stryker MD School of Medicine, Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, Michigan, said many fellow pediatricians have said the highly compressed exam doesn’t allow enough time to ask questions. “But pediatricians must find a way to make time,” he said. “Asking about depression and potential suicidality is top priority and can help keep your patients alive.”
Some pediatricians have told him, “I’m not prepared to provide counseling.” But “your role isn’t to provide counseling, just to open the conversation, offer hope, and direct the youngster to resources that can help.”
Don’t Be Afraid to Ask
According to the AAP, all children aged 12 years or older should be screened for suicidal risk, and children aged 8-11 years should be screened “when clinically indicated.” AAP also recommends annual screening for depression in children aged 12 years or older. However, Egger thinks that screening for depression should start sooner.
It can be tempting to screen by merely giving a youngster a form to fill out in the waiting room, but Greydanus strongly advises against this approach. “The important thing is having rapport with the child, being in the same room together. You can ask some simple questions. ‘How are you doing? How are things at school? How are things with your family?’”
“When you’re screening for depression and have a kid who’s talking about sadness or low mood for more than 2 weeks and endorsing other symptoms, such as problems with sleep or appetite, difficulty concentrating, anhedonia, losing interest in things they’d usually enjoy, feeling they’re a burden to others, hopelessness about the future, being unable to function the way they used to — that person meets criteria for depression and you should have a high suspicion and concern about potential suicide,” said Crawford, assistant professor of psychiatry, Boston University School of Medicine.
She suggested probing further and being direct. “It sounds like you’ve been having a tough time. You talk about being sad. I wonder if you’re feeling so sad that you might not want to be alive anymore.” Some healthcare providers “tiptoe around when it comes to suicide, but it’s better to be direct and communicate the question in simple, plain language: ‘Have you ever had thoughts about hurting or killing yourself, that life is no longer worth living, or life would be easier for your family if you weren’t alive?’”
It’s a common myth that asking about depression or suicidality will “plant a seed” or “put ideas in people’s heads,” potentially leading to suicidality. “What we know to be true is that asking about suicide doesn’t put lives at risk. In fact, the contrary is true,” according to Crawford. Several studies have refuted this myth.
Two screening tools that might be helpful in ascertaining the presence of depression and suicidality are the PHQ-9 modified for Adolescents and the four-question Ask Suicide-Screening Questions.
Probe for More Details
If a child or adolescent affirms suicidal ideation, it’s important to ask if they have a plan, Crawford advised. “If they say, ‘yes,’ don’t run out of the office or shut down the conversation by picking up the phone and calling the closest child psychiatrist. We want kids to open up as much as possible when they’ve already opened up a little. So continue the conversation.”
If a child has a plan, the risk for following through on that plan is “high,” Crawford emphasized. “You want the maximum amount of information at your fingertips because this will equip you to navigate the next step in getting the child help.”
The suicide plan may not be realistic and, if carried out, might not actually end in death, especially in younger children. “A 6-year-old might say, ‘I’m gonna drink a whole bottle of apple juice and my belly will explode.’ Or ‘I’ll take 10 extra vitamins.’ The objective lethality of the plan doesn’t matter in that moment. What matters is that the child believes it’s going to work, and it provides a window into how depressed that child is.”
Greydanus added that it’s important to understand what might be going on in the child’s life. Could there be abuse in the family? Is the child being bullied? Bullying can take place at school or online, he noted. The overall risk for suicidal thoughts is elevated for youth who are involved in bullying, whether they’re the bully or the one being bullied.
Kirk Smalley, president and co-founder of Stand for the Silent, an organization designed to bring awareness about the devastating effects of bullying, agreed that pediatricians a should ask children if they’re being bullied. “Sometimes, kids will open up to someone who isn’t a parent or a teacher, who might be seen as ‘too close’ to the situation,” Smalley said.
“Let them know you’re a trusted adult they can confide in and you’re willing to help them navigate this — and then follow through,” advised Smalley, whose 11-year-old son died by suicide after being subjected to bullying.
Painting a Complete Picture
Crawford advises clinicians to “look at the whole picture and piece it together.”
For example, “if the child is functioning, going to school, maintaining relationships with other people, and not experiencing symptoms of depression but discloses the desire to kill him/herself, understand the context.” Sometimes, adolescents can be impulsive. Decision-making “can be driven by emotion.” The teen may have experienced emotional distress, such as “conflict with a peer, arguments with a parent, or romantic heartbreak. She might say, ‘I’m going to kill myself if I ever see him holding hands with another girl.’”
In the setting of an acute stressor, such as a breakup, the child might not need a higher level of care such as hospitalization. “But for non-psychiatry providers, it’s unclear if the child might act on it, so it’s important to have the child evaluated; talk to collateral supports, such as parents, teachers, or a therapist if they have one; and see what makes sense for that specific child.”
She also recommended “getting a sense if the kid is future-oriented in thinking. If they’re talking about an upcoming concert this weekend, or wanting to get to basketball practice, that’s reassuring. It suggests the likelihood of following through [on suicide] is low.”
And assess coping strategies. “You can say, ‘I see you’re really going through a lot. I worry that these thoughts will come up in school. What do you think you’d do in the moment if these thoughts come up?’ If there’s a coping strategy — for example, ‘I’d talk to my friend during lunch’ — that’s also reassuring,” Crawford said.
Of course, that doesn’t mean the statement should be ignored or dismissed. Rather, it informs the next preventive steps and how intensive the level of care should be.
Next Steps: Involving the Family, Getting Help
It’s particularly concerning if the child is unable to identify strategies other than suicide, said Crawford. “You can say, ‘I’m concerned because it’s highly likely that you’ll run into this guy and I wouldn’t want you to die. You have so much to live for.’”
Then, you can ask if it’s okay to bring in the parent or caregiver to talk about what the child just revealed. “If the kid says no — especially a teen — you can respond, ‘I hear what you’re saying, but I actually do have to bring your parent in because of your safety and we can discuss together how to keep you safe.’”
In advance, Crawford tells the patient what she plans to share with the parent. “That way, we’re on the same page and the kid has a sense of agency about how the conversation with the parent will go.” If the teen doesn’t want certain information revealed, “you can ask, ‘What would you leave out, and why?’ This lends itself to a helpful conversation about what the child is thinking about.”
Once the provider has received the green light, it’s time to bring the parent into the room. “Especially in the primary care or pediatric setting, the parent is often shocked, worried, and caught off-guard,” Crawford said.
“You can start by thanking the patient for being open and honest. Then you can tell the parent, ‘Your daughter shared she’s been having some difficult emotions and experiences, and she’s thought of ending her life because she doesn’t know how to cope. I wanted to talk to you about this because it’s important to look at resources we can connect her to and effective coping strategies.’”
Further interventions can include referring the patient to a child psychiatrist or therapist, or both. “Have a list of referrals readily available,” Greydanus advised. If you suspect or if the child reveals abuse, you’re a mandated reporter and need to inform Child Protective Services (CPS). “But don’t stop there,” he warned. “Make sure the child is indeed getting help through CPS and appropriate intervention has been taken regarding the abuse and potential suicide attempt.” Or you may send the child to the ED, where ED physicians are “trained in what to do if they suspect abuse. But make sure that when you ‘throw the ball,’ there’s someone who can ‘catch’ it and accept responsibility for the child’s safety.”
Crawford noted that many primary care settings — especially in under-resourced areas — lack child psychiatrists or therapists. “You need to know what’s feasible in the community you’re practicing in,” she advised. “Be aware of the local crisis line — 988 — and mental health resources in the school and community. There are often school psychologists, social workers, or counselors who can become involved.”
Greydanus emphasized that it’s critical to assess for the presence of firearms in the home and address it with the parents. “If a child is sad or angry and gets impulsive, it’s amazingly common for them to get their hands in a firearm and use it.”
As previously reported, pediatricians and other healthcare providers have a valuable role to play in screening parents for firearm ownership and offering counseling on safe storage practices, according to research presented on September 28 at the AAP 2024 National Conference.
Sometimes, Even the Best Efforts Aren’t Successful
“Suicide is complicated, and parents or doctors can take all the ‘right’ steps to get counseling for the child — hospitalization, medication, and support — and children might still take their lives,” said Ronnie Susan Walker, MS, LCPC, founder and executive director of Alliance of Hope for Suicide Loss Survivors. The organization was launched as a “postvention campaign” 7 years ago to provide support to survivors of suicide loss, who are themselves a high-risk population for suicide.
Walker alluded to the concept of a “ suicide trance” — a term coined by Richard Heckler, PhD, in his book Waking Up, Alive. This trance “is a state of mind and body that receives only the kind of input that reinforces the pain and corroborates the person’s conviction that the only way out is through death,” Heckler wrote.
Walker, whose stepson died by suicide, said physicians and other healthcare professionals who have lost a patient to suicide “should focus on postvention — finding support from other professionals and managing their own grief and guilt.”
It’s natural to feel guilt and second-guess yourself, Greydanus said. “You question whether you missed something or could have done more, so acknowledge that even with the best care and intentions, some suicides aren’t preventable,” he said.
Walker recommends reaching out to the family. “When I lost my stepson, his doctor came to the funeral and wrote us a very meaningful note. That meant so much to us.”
Greydanus agreed it’s appropriate for the clinician to offer comfort to the family “if he or she feels it necessary or feels moved to do so.” However, he cautioned, there’s “often a fear of malpractice charges that may interfere in certain cases.”
Egger added that records should always be “very detailed,” with clear documentation of how you interacted with the child and the rationale behind your interventions. “I’m not a legal expert, but I would always err on the side of connecting with family and sharing grief and compassion. My experience with physician-patient relationships is that the more connected, transparent, and empathetic they are, the better the outcome will be for everyone.”
Losing a patient to suicide is traumatic, so give yourself time to grieve, Egger advised. “Unfortunately, this is an experience that almost everyone in the field will likely go through at some point. Reach out for professional counseling or peer support.”
Physicians who have lost a patient to suicide may turn to an online forum, the Coalition of Clinician Survivors, designed to create a safe anonymous space for discussion, education, testimonials, and one-on-one support.
Greydanus emphasized that the most important role in working with suicidal youngsters is to provide hope. “Yes, you can’t help everyone, but you can help most of them. That’s why you’re there.”
Greydanus, Crawford, Egger, Edson, Smalley, and Walker reported no financial conflicts of interest.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
When she was 5 years old, Katherine Edson, LCSW, tried to end her life by drowning herself. “I was enduring severe physical and sexual abuse, and it had become unbearable,” she said. “I waded into a lake, knowing there was a point when it would become too deep and I’d go under.”
As she was walking toward the deeper water, it occurred to her that if she died, she wouldn’t be able to eat Rice Krispies again. “I thought, ‘no more Snap, Crackle, and Pop’ — the three little mascots on the cereal box — and I felt sad,” said Edson, a New York–based retired therapist. “But I still kept walking.”
A man on the shore saw her disappear under the water and pulled her out. “I remember vomiting a lot of water and I remember that the man had tattoos, but I don’t remember how I felt to be alive. I was just numb.”
Edson thinks there were clues her pediatrician missed. “We lived in a small Southern town. Everyone knew my parents were alcoholics. I was very dissociated and withdrawn in general and during pediatric visits. My affect broadcasted that something was wrong, but no one asked if I was okay.”
She acknowledged that professionals in those days “weren’t tuned in to mental health issues in kids. At least there’s more awareness today and hopefully more training — especially since it seems like more kids are trying to end their lives today than when I was growing up.”
Alarming Statistics
According to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), suicide is the second leading cause of death for people aged 10-24 years. Data from Children’s Hospital Association’s Pediatric Health Information System revealed that suicide attempts, ideation, and self-injury have become the most common mental health conditions seen in the emergency departments (EDs) of children’s hospitals, with a 166% increase in ED visits for suicide attempts in children aged 5-18 years, between 2016 and 2022.
Psychiatrist Helen Egger, MD, chief medical officer and co-founder of Little Otter, a specialty pediatric and whole family digital mental health company, recently coauthored a report analyzing data on 1434 children who completed a screening session and comprehensive diagnostic assessment at Little Otter from May 2023 to February 2024 (n = 1016 children aged 8-14 years and n = 418 aged 3-7 years).
Almost one fifth of the older children presented with current positive suicide risk (suicidal ideation and/or behavior in the last month), while 6% of the younger age group presented with current suicide risk. The youngest was 5 years old.
Points of Contact
“It’s known that most children who die by suicide had a recent visit with a health professional — a pediatrician or child mental health professional. It’s unlikely that the child was fine and then, a few weeks later, stopped being fine. The likelihood is that the child wasn’t fine during that visit, but the clinician didn’t ask about mental health,” Egger said.
Christine Crawford, MD, MPH, associate medical director of the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI), said that “When you’re working with kids, anything can come up. Be prepared to navigate the conversation. You can never predict who the patient will feel most comfortable disclosing these thoughts to.”
Pediatricians are the physicians most likely to be seen by children, and it’s important for pediatricians to inquire about a child’s mood, especially during child visits, according to Crawford, author of the book You Are Not Alone for Parents and Caregivers: The NAMI Guide to Navigating Your Child’s Mental Health.
Donald E. Greydanus, MD, professor and founding chair, Department of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine, Homer Stryker MD School of Medicine, Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, Michigan, said many fellow pediatricians have said the highly compressed exam doesn’t allow enough time to ask questions. “But pediatricians must find a way to make time,” he said. “Asking about depression and potential suicidality is top priority and can help keep your patients alive.”
Some pediatricians have told him, “I’m not prepared to provide counseling.” But “your role isn’t to provide counseling, just to open the conversation, offer hope, and direct the youngster to resources that can help.”
Don’t Be Afraid to Ask
According to the AAP, all children aged 12 years or older should be screened for suicidal risk, and children aged 8-11 years should be screened “when clinically indicated.” AAP also recommends annual screening for depression in children aged 12 years or older. However, Egger thinks that screening for depression should start sooner.
It can be tempting to screen by merely giving a youngster a form to fill out in the waiting room, but Greydanus strongly advises against this approach. “The important thing is having rapport with the child, being in the same room together. You can ask some simple questions. ‘How are you doing? How are things at school? How are things with your family?’”
“When you’re screening for depression and have a kid who’s talking about sadness or low mood for more than 2 weeks and endorsing other symptoms, such as problems with sleep or appetite, difficulty concentrating, anhedonia, losing interest in things they’d usually enjoy, feeling they’re a burden to others, hopelessness about the future, being unable to function the way they used to — that person meets criteria for depression and you should have a high suspicion and concern about potential suicide,” said Crawford, assistant professor of psychiatry, Boston University School of Medicine.
She suggested probing further and being direct. “It sounds like you’ve been having a tough time. You talk about being sad. I wonder if you’re feeling so sad that you might not want to be alive anymore.” Some healthcare providers “tiptoe around when it comes to suicide, but it’s better to be direct and communicate the question in simple, plain language: ‘Have you ever had thoughts about hurting or killing yourself, that life is no longer worth living, or life would be easier for your family if you weren’t alive?’”
It’s a common myth that asking about depression or suicidality will “plant a seed” or “put ideas in people’s heads,” potentially leading to suicidality. “What we know to be true is that asking about suicide doesn’t put lives at risk. In fact, the contrary is true,” according to Crawford. Several studies have refuted this myth.
Two screening tools that might be helpful in ascertaining the presence of depression and suicidality are the PHQ-9 modified for Adolescents and the four-question Ask Suicide-Screening Questions.
Probe for More Details
If a child or adolescent affirms suicidal ideation, it’s important to ask if they have a plan, Crawford advised. “If they say, ‘yes,’ don’t run out of the office or shut down the conversation by picking up the phone and calling the closest child psychiatrist. We want kids to open up as much as possible when they’ve already opened up a little. So continue the conversation.”
If a child has a plan, the risk for following through on that plan is “high,” Crawford emphasized. “You want the maximum amount of information at your fingertips because this will equip you to navigate the next step in getting the child help.”
The suicide plan may not be realistic and, if carried out, might not actually end in death, especially in younger children. “A 6-year-old might say, ‘I’m gonna drink a whole bottle of apple juice and my belly will explode.’ Or ‘I’ll take 10 extra vitamins.’ The objective lethality of the plan doesn’t matter in that moment. What matters is that the child believes it’s going to work, and it provides a window into how depressed that child is.”
Greydanus added that it’s important to understand what might be going on in the child’s life. Could there be abuse in the family? Is the child being bullied? Bullying can take place at school or online, he noted. The overall risk for suicidal thoughts is elevated for youth who are involved in bullying, whether they’re the bully or the one being bullied.
Kirk Smalley, president and co-founder of Stand for the Silent, an organization designed to bring awareness about the devastating effects of bullying, agreed that pediatricians a should ask children if they’re being bullied. “Sometimes, kids will open up to someone who isn’t a parent or a teacher, who might be seen as ‘too close’ to the situation,” Smalley said.
“Let them know you’re a trusted adult they can confide in and you’re willing to help them navigate this — and then follow through,” advised Smalley, whose 11-year-old son died by suicide after being subjected to bullying.
Painting a Complete Picture
Crawford advises clinicians to “look at the whole picture and piece it together.”
For example, “if the child is functioning, going to school, maintaining relationships with other people, and not experiencing symptoms of depression but discloses the desire to kill him/herself, understand the context.” Sometimes, adolescents can be impulsive. Decision-making “can be driven by emotion.” The teen may have experienced emotional distress, such as “conflict with a peer, arguments with a parent, or romantic heartbreak. She might say, ‘I’m going to kill myself if I ever see him holding hands with another girl.’”
In the setting of an acute stressor, such as a breakup, the child might not need a higher level of care such as hospitalization. “But for non-psychiatry providers, it’s unclear if the child might act on it, so it’s important to have the child evaluated; talk to collateral supports, such as parents, teachers, or a therapist if they have one; and see what makes sense for that specific child.”
She also recommended “getting a sense if the kid is future-oriented in thinking. If they’re talking about an upcoming concert this weekend, or wanting to get to basketball practice, that’s reassuring. It suggests the likelihood of following through [on suicide] is low.”
And assess coping strategies. “You can say, ‘I see you’re really going through a lot. I worry that these thoughts will come up in school. What do you think you’d do in the moment if these thoughts come up?’ If there’s a coping strategy — for example, ‘I’d talk to my friend during lunch’ — that’s also reassuring,” Crawford said.
Of course, that doesn’t mean the statement should be ignored or dismissed. Rather, it informs the next preventive steps and how intensive the level of care should be.
Next Steps: Involving the Family, Getting Help
It’s particularly concerning if the child is unable to identify strategies other than suicide, said Crawford. “You can say, ‘I’m concerned because it’s highly likely that you’ll run into this guy and I wouldn’t want you to die. You have so much to live for.’”
Then, you can ask if it’s okay to bring in the parent or caregiver to talk about what the child just revealed. “If the kid says no — especially a teen — you can respond, ‘I hear what you’re saying, but I actually do have to bring your parent in because of your safety and we can discuss together how to keep you safe.’”
In advance, Crawford tells the patient what she plans to share with the parent. “That way, we’re on the same page and the kid has a sense of agency about how the conversation with the parent will go.” If the teen doesn’t want certain information revealed, “you can ask, ‘What would you leave out, and why?’ This lends itself to a helpful conversation about what the child is thinking about.”
Once the provider has received the green light, it’s time to bring the parent into the room. “Especially in the primary care or pediatric setting, the parent is often shocked, worried, and caught off-guard,” Crawford said.
“You can start by thanking the patient for being open and honest. Then you can tell the parent, ‘Your daughter shared she’s been having some difficult emotions and experiences, and she’s thought of ending her life because she doesn’t know how to cope. I wanted to talk to you about this because it’s important to look at resources we can connect her to and effective coping strategies.’”
Further interventions can include referring the patient to a child psychiatrist or therapist, or both. “Have a list of referrals readily available,” Greydanus advised. If you suspect or if the child reveals abuse, you’re a mandated reporter and need to inform Child Protective Services (CPS). “But don’t stop there,” he warned. “Make sure the child is indeed getting help through CPS and appropriate intervention has been taken regarding the abuse and potential suicide attempt.” Or you may send the child to the ED, where ED physicians are “trained in what to do if they suspect abuse. But make sure that when you ‘throw the ball,’ there’s someone who can ‘catch’ it and accept responsibility for the child’s safety.”
Crawford noted that many primary care settings — especially in under-resourced areas — lack child psychiatrists or therapists. “You need to know what’s feasible in the community you’re practicing in,” she advised. “Be aware of the local crisis line — 988 — and mental health resources in the school and community. There are often school psychologists, social workers, or counselors who can become involved.”
Greydanus emphasized that it’s critical to assess for the presence of firearms in the home and address it with the parents. “If a child is sad or angry and gets impulsive, it’s amazingly common for them to get their hands in a firearm and use it.”
As previously reported, pediatricians and other healthcare providers have a valuable role to play in screening parents for firearm ownership and offering counseling on safe storage practices, according to research presented on September 28 at the AAP 2024 National Conference.
Sometimes, Even the Best Efforts Aren’t Successful
“Suicide is complicated, and parents or doctors can take all the ‘right’ steps to get counseling for the child — hospitalization, medication, and support — and children might still take their lives,” said Ronnie Susan Walker, MS, LCPC, founder and executive director of Alliance of Hope for Suicide Loss Survivors. The organization was launched as a “postvention campaign” 7 years ago to provide support to survivors of suicide loss, who are themselves a high-risk population for suicide.
Walker alluded to the concept of a “ suicide trance” — a term coined by Richard Heckler, PhD, in his book Waking Up, Alive. This trance “is a state of mind and body that receives only the kind of input that reinforces the pain and corroborates the person’s conviction that the only way out is through death,” Heckler wrote.
Walker, whose stepson died by suicide, said physicians and other healthcare professionals who have lost a patient to suicide “should focus on postvention — finding support from other professionals and managing their own grief and guilt.”
It’s natural to feel guilt and second-guess yourself, Greydanus said. “You question whether you missed something or could have done more, so acknowledge that even with the best care and intentions, some suicides aren’t preventable,” he said.
Walker recommends reaching out to the family. “When I lost my stepson, his doctor came to the funeral and wrote us a very meaningful note. That meant so much to us.”
Greydanus agreed it’s appropriate for the clinician to offer comfort to the family “if he or she feels it necessary or feels moved to do so.” However, he cautioned, there’s “often a fear of malpractice charges that may interfere in certain cases.”
Egger added that records should always be “very detailed,” with clear documentation of how you interacted with the child and the rationale behind your interventions. “I’m not a legal expert, but I would always err on the side of connecting with family and sharing grief and compassion. My experience with physician-patient relationships is that the more connected, transparent, and empathetic they are, the better the outcome will be for everyone.”
Losing a patient to suicide is traumatic, so give yourself time to grieve, Egger advised. “Unfortunately, this is an experience that almost everyone in the field will likely go through at some point. Reach out for professional counseling or peer support.”
Physicians who have lost a patient to suicide may turn to an online forum, the Coalition of Clinician Survivors, designed to create a safe anonymous space for discussion, education, testimonials, and one-on-one support.
Greydanus emphasized that the most important role in working with suicidal youngsters is to provide hope. “Yes, you can’t help everyone, but you can help most of them. That’s why you’re there.”
Greydanus, Crawford, Egger, Edson, Smalley, and Walker reported no financial conflicts of interest.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
When she was 5 years old, Katherine Edson, LCSW, tried to end her life by drowning herself. “I was enduring severe physical and sexual abuse, and it had become unbearable,” she said. “I waded into a lake, knowing there was a point when it would become too deep and I’d go under.”
As she was walking toward the deeper water, it occurred to her that if she died, she wouldn’t be able to eat Rice Krispies again. “I thought, ‘no more Snap, Crackle, and Pop’ — the three little mascots on the cereal box — and I felt sad,” said Edson, a New York–based retired therapist. “But I still kept walking.”
A man on the shore saw her disappear under the water and pulled her out. “I remember vomiting a lot of water and I remember that the man had tattoos, but I don’t remember how I felt to be alive. I was just numb.”
Edson thinks there were clues her pediatrician missed. “We lived in a small Southern town. Everyone knew my parents were alcoholics. I was very dissociated and withdrawn in general and during pediatric visits. My affect broadcasted that something was wrong, but no one asked if I was okay.”
She acknowledged that professionals in those days “weren’t tuned in to mental health issues in kids. At least there’s more awareness today and hopefully more training — especially since it seems like more kids are trying to end their lives today than when I was growing up.”
Alarming Statistics
According to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), suicide is the second leading cause of death for people aged 10-24 years. Data from Children’s Hospital Association’s Pediatric Health Information System revealed that suicide attempts, ideation, and self-injury have become the most common mental health conditions seen in the emergency departments (EDs) of children’s hospitals, with a 166% increase in ED visits for suicide attempts in children aged 5-18 years, between 2016 and 2022.
Psychiatrist Helen Egger, MD, chief medical officer and co-founder of Little Otter, a specialty pediatric and whole family digital mental health company, recently coauthored a report analyzing data on 1434 children who completed a screening session and comprehensive diagnostic assessment at Little Otter from May 2023 to February 2024 (n = 1016 children aged 8-14 years and n = 418 aged 3-7 years).
Almost one fifth of the older children presented with current positive suicide risk (suicidal ideation and/or behavior in the last month), while 6% of the younger age group presented with current suicide risk. The youngest was 5 years old.
Points of Contact
“It’s known that most children who die by suicide had a recent visit with a health professional — a pediatrician or child mental health professional. It’s unlikely that the child was fine and then, a few weeks later, stopped being fine. The likelihood is that the child wasn’t fine during that visit, but the clinician didn’t ask about mental health,” Egger said.
Christine Crawford, MD, MPH, associate medical director of the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI), said that “When you’re working with kids, anything can come up. Be prepared to navigate the conversation. You can never predict who the patient will feel most comfortable disclosing these thoughts to.”
Pediatricians are the physicians most likely to be seen by children, and it’s important for pediatricians to inquire about a child’s mood, especially during child visits, according to Crawford, author of the book You Are Not Alone for Parents and Caregivers: The NAMI Guide to Navigating Your Child’s Mental Health.
Donald E. Greydanus, MD, professor and founding chair, Department of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine, Homer Stryker MD School of Medicine, Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, Michigan, said many fellow pediatricians have said the highly compressed exam doesn’t allow enough time to ask questions. “But pediatricians must find a way to make time,” he said. “Asking about depression and potential suicidality is top priority and can help keep your patients alive.”
Some pediatricians have told him, “I’m not prepared to provide counseling.” But “your role isn’t to provide counseling, just to open the conversation, offer hope, and direct the youngster to resources that can help.”
Don’t Be Afraid to Ask
According to the AAP, all children aged 12 years or older should be screened for suicidal risk, and children aged 8-11 years should be screened “when clinically indicated.” AAP also recommends annual screening for depression in children aged 12 years or older. However, Egger thinks that screening for depression should start sooner.
It can be tempting to screen by merely giving a youngster a form to fill out in the waiting room, but Greydanus strongly advises against this approach. “The important thing is having rapport with the child, being in the same room together. You can ask some simple questions. ‘How are you doing? How are things at school? How are things with your family?’”
“When you’re screening for depression and have a kid who’s talking about sadness or low mood for more than 2 weeks and endorsing other symptoms, such as problems with sleep or appetite, difficulty concentrating, anhedonia, losing interest in things they’d usually enjoy, feeling they’re a burden to others, hopelessness about the future, being unable to function the way they used to — that person meets criteria for depression and you should have a high suspicion and concern about potential suicide,” said Crawford, assistant professor of psychiatry, Boston University School of Medicine.
She suggested probing further and being direct. “It sounds like you’ve been having a tough time. You talk about being sad. I wonder if you’re feeling so sad that you might not want to be alive anymore.” Some healthcare providers “tiptoe around when it comes to suicide, but it’s better to be direct and communicate the question in simple, plain language: ‘Have you ever had thoughts about hurting or killing yourself, that life is no longer worth living, or life would be easier for your family if you weren’t alive?’”
It’s a common myth that asking about depression or suicidality will “plant a seed” or “put ideas in people’s heads,” potentially leading to suicidality. “What we know to be true is that asking about suicide doesn’t put lives at risk. In fact, the contrary is true,” according to Crawford. Several studies have refuted this myth.
Two screening tools that might be helpful in ascertaining the presence of depression and suicidality are the PHQ-9 modified for Adolescents and the four-question Ask Suicide-Screening Questions.
Probe for More Details
If a child or adolescent affirms suicidal ideation, it’s important to ask if they have a plan, Crawford advised. “If they say, ‘yes,’ don’t run out of the office or shut down the conversation by picking up the phone and calling the closest child psychiatrist. We want kids to open up as much as possible when they’ve already opened up a little. So continue the conversation.”
If a child has a plan, the risk for following through on that plan is “high,” Crawford emphasized. “You want the maximum amount of information at your fingertips because this will equip you to navigate the next step in getting the child help.”
The suicide plan may not be realistic and, if carried out, might not actually end in death, especially in younger children. “A 6-year-old might say, ‘I’m gonna drink a whole bottle of apple juice and my belly will explode.’ Or ‘I’ll take 10 extra vitamins.’ The objective lethality of the plan doesn’t matter in that moment. What matters is that the child believes it’s going to work, and it provides a window into how depressed that child is.”
Greydanus added that it’s important to understand what might be going on in the child’s life. Could there be abuse in the family? Is the child being bullied? Bullying can take place at school or online, he noted. The overall risk for suicidal thoughts is elevated for youth who are involved in bullying, whether they’re the bully or the one being bullied.
Kirk Smalley, president and co-founder of Stand for the Silent, an organization designed to bring awareness about the devastating effects of bullying, agreed that pediatricians a should ask children if they’re being bullied. “Sometimes, kids will open up to someone who isn’t a parent or a teacher, who might be seen as ‘too close’ to the situation,” Smalley said.
“Let them know you’re a trusted adult they can confide in and you’re willing to help them navigate this — and then follow through,” advised Smalley, whose 11-year-old son died by suicide after being subjected to bullying.
Painting a Complete Picture
Crawford advises clinicians to “look at the whole picture and piece it together.”
For example, “if the child is functioning, going to school, maintaining relationships with other people, and not experiencing symptoms of depression but discloses the desire to kill him/herself, understand the context.” Sometimes, adolescents can be impulsive. Decision-making “can be driven by emotion.” The teen may have experienced emotional distress, such as “conflict with a peer, arguments with a parent, or romantic heartbreak. She might say, ‘I’m going to kill myself if I ever see him holding hands with another girl.’”
In the setting of an acute stressor, such as a breakup, the child might not need a higher level of care such as hospitalization. “But for non-psychiatry providers, it’s unclear if the child might act on it, so it’s important to have the child evaluated; talk to collateral supports, such as parents, teachers, or a therapist if they have one; and see what makes sense for that specific child.”
She also recommended “getting a sense if the kid is future-oriented in thinking. If they’re talking about an upcoming concert this weekend, or wanting to get to basketball practice, that’s reassuring. It suggests the likelihood of following through [on suicide] is low.”
And assess coping strategies. “You can say, ‘I see you’re really going through a lot. I worry that these thoughts will come up in school. What do you think you’d do in the moment if these thoughts come up?’ If there’s a coping strategy — for example, ‘I’d talk to my friend during lunch’ — that’s also reassuring,” Crawford said.
Of course, that doesn’t mean the statement should be ignored or dismissed. Rather, it informs the next preventive steps and how intensive the level of care should be.
Next Steps: Involving the Family, Getting Help
It’s particularly concerning if the child is unable to identify strategies other than suicide, said Crawford. “You can say, ‘I’m concerned because it’s highly likely that you’ll run into this guy and I wouldn’t want you to die. You have so much to live for.’”
Then, you can ask if it’s okay to bring in the parent or caregiver to talk about what the child just revealed. “If the kid says no — especially a teen — you can respond, ‘I hear what you’re saying, but I actually do have to bring your parent in because of your safety and we can discuss together how to keep you safe.’”
In advance, Crawford tells the patient what she plans to share with the parent. “That way, we’re on the same page and the kid has a sense of agency about how the conversation with the parent will go.” If the teen doesn’t want certain information revealed, “you can ask, ‘What would you leave out, and why?’ This lends itself to a helpful conversation about what the child is thinking about.”
Once the provider has received the green light, it’s time to bring the parent into the room. “Especially in the primary care or pediatric setting, the parent is often shocked, worried, and caught off-guard,” Crawford said.
“You can start by thanking the patient for being open and honest. Then you can tell the parent, ‘Your daughter shared she’s been having some difficult emotions and experiences, and she’s thought of ending her life because she doesn’t know how to cope. I wanted to talk to you about this because it’s important to look at resources we can connect her to and effective coping strategies.’”
Further interventions can include referring the patient to a child psychiatrist or therapist, or both. “Have a list of referrals readily available,” Greydanus advised. If you suspect or if the child reveals abuse, you’re a mandated reporter and need to inform Child Protective Services (CPS). “But don’t stop there,” he warned. “Make sure the child is indeed getting help through CPS and appropriate intervention has been taken regarding the abuse and potential suicide attempt.” Or you may send the child to the ED, where ED physicians are “trained in what to do if they suspect abuse. But make sure that when you ‘throw the ball,’ there’s someone who can ‘catch’ it and accept responsibility for the child’s safety.”
Crawford noted that many primary care settings — especially in under-resourced areas — lack child psychiatrists or therapists. “You need to know what’s feasible in the community you’re practicing in,” she advised. “Be aware of the local crisis line — 988 — and mental health resources in the school and community. There are often school psychologists, social workers, or counselors who can become involved.”
Greydanus emphasized that it’s critical to assess for the presence of firearms in the home and address it with the parents. “If a child is sad or angry and gets impulsive, it’s amazingly common for them to get their hands in a firearm and use it.”
As previously reported, pediatricians and other healthcare providers have a valuable role to play in screening parents for firearm ownership and offering counseling on safe storage practices, according to research presented on September 28 at the AAP 2024 National Conference.
Sometimes, Even the Best Efforts Aren’t Successful
“Suicide is complicated, and parents or doctors can take all the ‘right’ steps to get counseling for the child — hospitalization, medication, and support — and children might still take their lives,” said Ronnie Susan Walker, MS, LCPC, founder and executive director of Alliance of Hope for Suicide Loss Survivors. The organization was launched as a “postvention campaign” 7 years ago to provide support to survivors of suicide loss, who are themselves a high-risk population for suicide.
Walker alluded to the concept of a “ suicide trance” — a term coined by Richard Heckler, PhD, in his book Waking Up, Alive. This trance “is a state of mind and body that receives only the kind of input that reinforces the pain and corroborates the person’s conviction that the only way out is through death,” Heckler wrote.
Walker, whose stepson died by suicide, said physicians and other healthcare professionals who have lost a patient to suicide “should focus on postvention — finding support from other professionals and managing their own grief and guilt.”
It’s natural to feel guilt and second-guess yourself, Greydanus said. “You question whether you missed something or could have done more, so acknowledge that even with the best care and intentions, some suicides aren’t preventable,” he said.
Walker recommends reaching out to the family. “When I lost my stepson, his doctor came to the funeral and wrote us a very meaningful note. That meant so much to us.”
Greydanus agreed it’s appropriate for the clinician to offer comfort to the family “if he or she feels it necessary or feels moved to do so.” However, he cautioned, there’s “often a fear of malpractice charges that may interfere in certain cases.”
Egger added that records should always be “very detailed,” with clear documentation of how you interacted with the child and the rationale behind your interventions. “I’m not a legal expert, but I would always err on the side of connecting with family and sharing grief and compassion. My experience with physician-patient relationships is that the more connected, transparent, and empathetic they are, the better the outcome will be for everyone.”
Losing a patient to suicide is traumatic, so give yourself time to grieve, Egger advised. “Unfortunately, this is an experience that almost everyone in the field will likely go through at some point. Reach out for professional counseling or peer support.”
Physicians who have lost a patient to suicide may turn to an online forum, the Coalition of Clinician Survivors, designed to create a safe anonymous space for discussion, education, testimonials, and one-on-one support.
Greydanus emphasized that the most important role in working with suicidal youngsters is to provide hope. “Yes, you can’t help everyone, but you can help most of them. That’s why you’re there.”
Greydanus, Crawford, Egger, Edson, Smalley, and Walker reported no financial conflicts of interest.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
Obesity: A Social Vulnerability
Sometime in the last year or 2 I wrote that, despite my considerable reservations, I had finally come to the conclusion that the American Medical Association’s decision to designate obesity as a disease was appropriate. My rationalization was that the disease label would open more opportunities for funding obesity treatments. However, the explosive growth and popularity of glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) agonists over the last year has had me rethinking my decision to suppress my long-held reservations about the disease designation.
So, if it’s not a disease, then what should we call it? How do we explain its surge in high-income countries that began in the 1980s? While there are still some folks who see obesity as a character flaw, I think you and I as healthcare providers have difficulty explaining the increase prevalence of obesity as either global breakdown of willpower or a widespread genetic shift as the result of burst of radiation from solar flares.
However, if we want to continue our search and finger-pointing we need to have a better definition of exactly what obesity is. If we’re going to continue calling it a disease we have done a pretty sloppy job of creating diagnostic criteria. To be honest, we aren’t doing such a hot job with “long COVID” either.
A recent article in the New York Times makes it clear that I’m not the only physician who is feeling uncomfortable with this lack of diagnostic specificity.
We know that using body mass index (BMI) as a criteria is imprecise. There are healthy individuals with elevated BMIs and there are others who are carrying an unhealthy amount of fat who have normal BMIs. And, there are individuals who have what might appear to be an excess amount of fat who are fit and healthy by other criteria.
Some investigators feel that a set of measurements that includes a waist and/or hip measurement may be a more accurate way of determining visceral adipose tissue. However, this body roundness index (BRI) currently relies on a tape measurement. Until the technique can be preformed by an inexpensive and readily available scanner, the BRI cannot be considered a practical tool for determining obesity.
Dr. Francisco Rubino, the chair of metabolic and bariatric surgery at Kings College in London, England, has been quoted as saying that, “if one defines a disease inaccurately, everything that stems from that – from diagnosis to treatment to policies – will be distorted and biased.”
Denmark has been forced to relabel obesity as a risk factor because the disease designation was stressing the financial viability of their healthcare system as more and more patients were being prescribe GLP-1 agonists, sometimes off label. A rationing strategy was resulting in suboptimal treatment of a significant portion of the obese population.
Spearheaded by Dr. Rubino, a Lancet Commission composed of physicians has tasked itself to define an “evidence-based diagnosis for obesity. Instead of relying on a single metric such as the BMI or BRI, diagnosing “clinical obesity” would involve a broad array of observations including a history, physical examination, standard laboratory and additional testing, “naming signs and symptoms, organ by organ, tissue by tissue, with plausible mechanisms for each one.” In other words, treating each patient as an individual using evidence-based criteria to make a diagnosis. While likely to be time consuming, this strategy feels like a more scientific approach. I suspect once clinical obesity is more rigorously defined it could be divided into several subtypes. For example, there would be a few conditions that were genetic; Prader-Willi syndrome being the best known.
However, I think the Lancet Commission’s strategy will find that the majority of individuals who make up this half-century global surge have become clinically obese because they have been unable to adapt to the obeseogenic forces in our society, which include diet, autocentricity, and attractive sedentary forms of entertainment, to name just three.
In some cases these unfortunate individuals are more vulnerable because there were born into an economically disadvantaged situation. In other scenarios a lack of foresight and/or political will may have left individuals with no other choice but to rely on automobiles to get around. Still others may find themselves living in a nutritional desert because all of the grocery stores have closed.
I recently encountered a descriptor in a story about the Federal Emergency Management Agency which could easily be adapted to describe this large and growing subtype of individuals with clinical obesity. “Social vulnerability” is measure of how well a community can withstand external stressors that impact human health. For example, the emergency management folks are thinking in terms of natural disaster such as hurricanes, floods, and tornadoes and are asking how well a given community can meet the challenges one would create.
But, the term social vulnerability can easily be applied to individuals living in a society in which unhealthy food is abundant, an infrastructure that discourages or outright prevents non-motorized travel, and the temptation of sedentary entertainment options is unavoidable. Fortunately, not every citizen living in an obesogenic society becomes obese. What factors have protected the non-obese individuals from these obeseogenic stressors? What are the characteristics of the unfortunate “vulnerables” living in the same society who end up being obese?
It is time to shift our focus away from a poorly defined disease model to one in which we begin looking at our society to find out why we have so many socially vulnerable individuals. The toll of obesity as it is currently defined is many order of magnitudes greater than any natural disaster. We have become communities that can no longer withstand the its obesogenic stressors many of which we have created and/or allowed to accumulate over the last century.
Dr. Wilkoff practiced primary care pediatrics in Brunswick, Maine, for nearly 40 years. He has authored several books on behavioral pediatrics, including “How to Say No to Your Toddler.” Other than a Littman stethoscope he accepted as a first-year medical student in 1966, Dr. Wilkoff reports having nothing to disclose. Email him at pdnews@mdedge.com.
Sometime in the last year or 2 I wrote that, despite my considerable reservations, I had finally come to the conclusion that the American Medical Association’s decision to designate obesity as a disease was appropriate. My rationalization was that the disease label would open more opportunities for funding obesity treatments. However, the explosive growth and popularity of glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) agonists over the last year has had me rethinking my decision to suppress my long-held reservations about the disease designation.
So, if it’s not a disease, then what should we call it? How do we explain its surge in high-income countries that began in the 1980s? While there are still some folks who see obesity as a character flaw, I think you and I as healthcare providers have difficulty explaining the increase prevalence of obesity as either global breakdown of willpower or a widespread genetic shift as the result of burst of radiation from solar flares.
However, if we want to continue our search and finger-pointing we need to have a better definition of exactly what obesity is. If we’re going to continue calling it a disease we have done a pretty sloppy job of creating diagnostic criteria. To be honest, we aren’t doing such a hot job with “long COVID” either.
A recent article in the New York Times makes it clear that I’m not the only physician who is feeling uncomfortable with this lack of diagnostic specificity.
We know that using body mass index (BMI) as a criteria is imprecise. There are healthy individuals with elevated BMIs and there are others who are carrying an unhealthy amount of fat who have normal BMIs. And, there are individuals who have what might appear to be an excess amount of fat who are fit and healthy by other criteria.
Some investigators feel that a set of measurements that includes a waist and/or hip measurement may be a more accurate way of determining visceral adipose tissue. However, this body roundness index (BRI) currently relies on a tape measurement. Until the technique can be preformed by an inexpensive and readily available scanner, the BRI cannot be considered a practical tool for determining obesity.
Dr. Francisco Rubino, the chair of metabolic and bariatric surgery at Kings College in London, England, has been quoted as saying that, “if one defines a disease inaccurately, everything that stems from that – from diagnosis to treatment to policies – will be distorted and biased.”
Denmark has been forced to relabel obesity as a risk factor because the disease designation was stressing the financial viability of their healthcare system as more and more patients were being prescribe GLP-1 agonists, sometimes off label. A rationing strategy was resulting in suboptimal treatment of a significant portion of the obese population.
Spearheaded by Dr. Rubino, a Lancet Commission composed of physicians has tasked itself to define an “evidence-based diagnosis for obesity. Instead of relying on a single metric such as the BMI or BRI, diagnosing “clinical obesity” would involve a broad array of observations including a history, physical examination, standard laboratory and additional testing, “naming signs and symptoms, organ by organ, tissue by tissue, with plausible mechanisms for each one.” In other words, treating each patient as an individual using evidence-based criteria to make a diagnosis. While likely to be time consuming, this strategy feels like a more scientific approach. I suspect once clinical obesity is more rigorously defined it could be divided into several subtypes. For example, there would be a few conditions that were genetic; Prader-Willi syndrome being the best known.
However, I think the Lancet Commission’s strategy will find that the majority of individuals who make up this half-century global surge have become clinically obese because they have been unable to adapt to the obeseogenic forces in our society, which include diet, autocentricity, and attractive sedentary forms of entertainment, to name just three.
In some cases these unfortunate individuals are more vulnerable because there were born into an economically disadvantaged situation. In other scenarios a lack of foresight and/or political will may have left individuals with no other choice but to rely on automobiles to get around. Still others may find themselves living in a nutritional desert because all of the grocery stores have closed.
I recently encountered a descriptor in a story about the Federal Emergency Management Agency which could easily be adapted to describe this large and growing subtype of individuals with clinical obesity. “Social vulnerability” is measure of how well a community can withstand external stressors that impact human health. For example, the emergency management folks are thinking in terms of natural disaster such as hurricanes, floods, and tornadoes and are asking how well a given community can meet the challenges one would create.
But, the term social vulnerability can easily be applied to individuals living in a society in which unhealthy food is abundant, an infrastructure that discourages or outright prevents non-motorized travel, and the temptation of sedentary entertainment options is unavoidable. Fortunately, not every citizen living in an obesogenic society becomes obese. What factors have protected the non-obese individuals from these obeseogenic stressors? What are the characteristics of the unfortunate “vulnerables” living in the same society who end up being obese?
It is time to shift our focus away from a poorly defined disease model to one in which we begin looking at our society to find out why we have so many socially vulnerable individuals. The toll of obesity as it is currently defined is many order of magnitudes greater than any natural disaster. We have become communities that can no longer withstand the its obesogenic stressors many of which we have created and/or allowed to accumulate over the last century.
Dr. Wilkoff practiced primary care pediatrics in Brunswick, Maine, for nearly 40 years. He has authored several books on behavioral pediatrics, including “How to Say No to Your Toddler.” Other than a Littman stethoscope he accepted as a first-year medical student in 1966, Dr. Wilkoff reports having nothing to disclose. Email him at pdnews@mdedge.com.
Sometime in the last year or 2 I wrote that, despite my considerable reservations, I had finally come to the conclusion that the American Medical Association’s decision to designate obesity as a disease was appropriate. My rationalization was that the disease label would open more opportunities for funding obesity treatments. However, the explosive growth and popularity of glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) agonists over the last year has had me rethinking my decision to suppress my long-held reservations about the disease designation.
So, if it’s not a disease, then what should we call it? How do we explain its surge in high-income countries that began in the 1980s? While there are still some folks who see obesity as a character flaw, I think you and I as healthcare providers have difficulty explaining the increase prevalence of obesity as either global breakdown of willpower or a widespread genetic shift as the result of burst of radiation from solar flares.
However, if we want to continue our search and finger-pointing we need to have a better definition of exactly what obesity is. If we’re going to continue calling it a disease we have done a pretty sloppy job of creating diagnostic criteria. To be honest, we aren’t doing such a hot job with “long COVID” either.
A recent article in the New York Times makes it clear that I’m not the only physician who is feeling uncomfortable with this lack of diagnostic specificity.
We know that using body mass index (BMI) as a criteria is imprecise. There are healthy individuals with elevated BMIs and there are others who are carrying an unhealthy amount of fat who have normal BMIs. And, there are individuals who have what might appear to be an excess amount of fat who are fit and healthy by other criteria.
Some investigators feel that a set of measurements that includes a waist and/or hip measurement may be a more accurate way of determining visceral adipose tissue. However, this body roundness index (BRI) currently relies on a tape measurement. Until the technique can be preformed by an inexpensive and readily available scanner, the BRI cannot be considered a practical tool for determining obesity.
Dr. Francisco Rubino, the chair of metabolic and bariatric surgery at Kings College in London, England, has been quoted as saying that, “if one defines a disease inaccurately, everything that stems from that – from diagnosis to treatment to policies – will be distorted and biased.”
Denmark has been forced to relabel obesity as a risk factor because the disease designation was stressing the financial viability of their healthcare system as more and more patients were being prescribe GLP-1 agonists, sometimes off label. A rationing strategy was resulting in suboptimal treatment of a significant portion of the obese population.
Spearheaded by Dr. Rubino, a Lancet Commission composed of physicians has tasked itself to define an “evidence-based diagnosis for obesity. Instead of relying on a single metric such as the BMI or BRI, diagnosing “clinical obesity” would involve a broad array of observations including a history, physical examination, standard laboratory and additional testing, “naming signs and symptoms, organ by organ, tissue by tissue, with plausible mechanisms for each one.” In other words, treating each patient as an individual using evidence-based criteria to make a diagnosis. While likely to be time consuming, this strategy feels like a more scientific approach. I suspect once clinical obesity is more rigorously defined it could be divided into several subtypes. For example, there would be a few conditions that were genetic; Prader-Willi syndrome being the best known.
However, I think the Lancet Commission’s strategy will find that the majority of individuals who make up this half-century global surge have become clinically obese because they have been unable to adapt to the obeseogenic forces in our society, which include diet, autocentricity, and attractive sedentary forms of entertainment, to name just three.
In some cases these unfortunate individuals are more vulnerable because there were born into an economically disadvantaged situation. In other scenarios a lack of foresight and/or political will may have left individuals with no other choice but to rely on automobiles to get around. Still others may find themselves living in a nutritional desert because all of the grocery stores have closed.
I recently encountered a descriptor in a story about the Federal Emergency Management Agency which could easily be adapted to describe this large and growing subtype of individuals with clinical obesity. “Social vulnerability” is measure of how well a community can withstand external stressors that impact human health. For example, the emergency management folks are thinking in terms of natural disaster such as hurricanes, floods, and tornadoes and are asking how well a given community can meet the challenges one would create.
But, the term social vulnerability can easily be applied to individuals living in a society in which unhealthy food is abundant, an infrastructure that discourages or outright prevents non-motorized travel, and the temptation of sedentary entertainment options is unavoidable. Fortunately, not every citizen living in an obesogenic society becomes obese. What factors have protected the non-obese individuals from these obeseogenic stressors? What are the characteristics of the unfortunate “vulnerables” living in the same society who end up being obese?
It is time to shift our focus away from a poorly defined disease model to one in which we begin looking at our society to find out why we have so many socially vulnerable individuals. The toll of obesity as it is currently defined is many order of magnitudes greater than any natural disaster. We have become communities that can no longer withstand the its obesogenic stressors many of which we have created and/or allowed to accumulate over the last century.
Dr. Wilkoff practiced primary care pediatrics in Brunswick, Maine, for nearly 40 years. He has authored several books on behavioral pediatrics, including “How to Say No to Your Toddler.” Other than a Littman stethoscope he accepted as a first-year medical student in 1966, Dr. Wilkoff reports having nothing to disclose. Email him at pdnews@mdedge.com.
Preventing Pediatric Migraine
I suspect you all have some experience with childhood migraine. It can mean a painful several hours for the patient, arriving often without warning, with recurrences spaced months or sometimes even years apart. It may be accompanied by vomiting, which in some cases overshadows the severity of the headache. It can result in lost days from school and ruin family activities. It can occur so infrequently that the family can’t recall accurately when the last episode happened. In some ways it is a different animal than the adult version.
Most of the pediatric patients with migraine I have seen have experienced attacks that were occurring so infrequently that the families and I seldom discussed medication as an option. Back then imipramine was the only choice. However, currently there are more than a half dozen medications and combinations that have been tried. Recently a review of 45 clinical trials of these medications was published in JAMA Network Open.
I will let you review for yourself the details of these Iranian investigators’ network meta-analysis, but the bottom line is that some medications were associated with a reduction in migraine frequency. Others were associated with headache intensity. “However, no treatments were associated with significant improvements in quality of life or reduction of the duration of migraine attacks.”
Obviously, this paper illustrates clearly that we have not yet discovered the medicinal magic bullet for pediatric migraine prophylaxis. This doesn’t surprise me. After listening to scores of families tell their migraine stories, it became apparent to me that there was often a pattern in which the child’s headache had arrived after a period of acute sleep deprivation. For example, a trip to an amusement park in which travel or excitement may have resulted in the child going to bed later and/or getting up earlier. By afternoon the child’s reserves of something (currently unknown) were depleted to a point that the headache and/or vomiting struck.
Because these episodes were often so infrequent, separated by months, that taking a history demonstrating a recurring pattern could take considerable patience on the part of the family and the provider, even for a physician like myself who believes that better sleep is the answer for everything. However, once I could convince a family of the connection between the sleep deprivation and the headaches, they could often recall other episodes in the past that substantiated my explanation.
In some cases there was no obvious history of acute sleep deprivation, or at least it was so subtle that even a history taker with a sleep obsession couldn’t detect it. However, in these cases I could usually elicit a history of chronic sleep deprivation. For example, falling asleep instantly on automobile rides, difficulty with waking in the morning, or unhealthy bedtime routines. With this underlying vulnerability of chronic sleep deprivation, a slightly more exciting or vigorous day was all that was necessary to trigger the headache.
For those of you who don’t share my contention that childhood migraine is usually the result of sleep deprivation, consider the similarity between an epileptic seizure, which can be triggered by fatigue. Both events are usually followed by a deep sleep from which the child wakes refreshed and symptom free.
I think it is interesting that this recent meta-analysis could find no benefit in the quality of life for any of the medications. The explanation may be that the child with migraine already had a somewhat diminished quality of life as a result of the sleep deprivation, either acute or chronic.
When speaking with parents of migraine sufferers, I would tell them that once the headache had started there was little I had to offer to forestall the inevitable pain and vomiting. Certainly not in the form of an oral medication. While many adults will have an aura that warns them of the headache onset, I have found that most children don’t describe an aura. It may be they simply lack the ability to express it. Occasionally an observant parent may detect pallor or a behavior change that indicates a migraine is beginning. On rare occasions a parent may be able to abort the attack by quickly getting the child to a quiet, dark, and calm environment.
Although this recent meta-analysis review of treatment options is discouraging, it may be providing a clue to effective prophylaxis. Some of the medications that decrease the frequency of the attacks may be doing so because they improve the patient’s sleep patterns. Those that decrease the intensity of the pain are probably working on pain pathway that is not specific to migraine.
Continuing a search for a prophylactic medication is a worthy goal, particularly for those patients in which their migraines are debilitating. However, based on my experience, enhanced by my bias, the safest and most effective prophylaxis results from increasing the family’s awareness of the role that sleep deprivation plays in the illness. Even when the family buys into the message and attempts to avoid situations that will tax their vulnerable children, parents will need to accept that sometimes stuff happens even though siblings and peers may be able to tolerate the situation. Spontaneous activities can converge on a day when for whatever reason the migraine-prone child is overtired and the headache and vomiting will erupt.
A lifestyle change is always preferable to a pharmacological intervention. However, that doesn’t mean it is always easy to achieve.
Dr. Wilkoff practiced primary care pediatrics in Brunswick, Maine, for nearly 40 years. He has authored several books on behavioral pediatrics, including “How to Say No to Your Toddler.” Other than a Littman stethoscope he accepted as a first-year medical student in 1966, Dr. Wilkoff reports having nothing to disclose. Email him at pdnews@mdedge.com.
I suspect you all have some experience with childhood migraine. It can mean a painful several hours for the patient, arriving often without warning, with recurrences spaced months or sometimes even years apart. It may be accompanied by vomiting, which in some cases overshadows the severity of the headache. It can result in lost days from school and ruin family activities. It can occur so infrequently that the family can’t recall accurately when the last episode happened. In some ways it is a different animal than the adult version.
Most of the pediatric patients with migraine I have seen have experienced attacks that were occurring so infrequently that the families and I seldom discussed medication as an option. Back then imipramine was the only choice. However, currently there are more than a half dozen medications and combinations that have been tried. Recently a review of 45 clinical trials of these medications was published in JAMA Network Open.
I will let you review for yourself the details of these Iranian investigators’ network meta-analysis, but the bottom line is that some medications were associated with a reduction in migraine frequency. Others were associated with headache intensity. “However, no treatments were associated with significant improvements in quality of life or reduction of the duration of migraine attacks.”
Obviously, this paper illustrates clearly that we have not yet discovered the medicinal magic bullet for pediatric migraine prophylaxis. This doesn’t surprise me. After listening to scores of families tell their migraine stories, it became apparent to me that there was often a pattern in which the child’s headache had arrived after a period of acute sleep deprivation. For example, a trip to an amusement park in which travel or excitement may have resulted in the child going to bed later and/or getting up earlier. By afternoon the child’s reserves of something (currently unknown) were depleted to a point that the headache and/or vomiting struck.
Because these episodes were often so infrequent, separated by months, that taking a history demonstrating a recurring pattern could take considerable patience on the part of the family and the provider, even for a physician like myself who believes that better sleep is the answer for everything. However, once I could convince a family of the connection between the sleep deprivation and the headaches, they could often recall other episodes in the past that substantiated my explanation.
In some cases there was no obvious history of acute sleep deprivation, or at least it was so subtle that even a history taker with a sleep obsession couldn’t detect it. However, in these cases I could usually elicit a history of chronic sleep deprivation. For example, falling asleep instantly on automobile rides, difficulty with waking in the morning, or unhealthy bedtime routines. With this underlying vulnerability of chronic sleep deprivation, a slightly more exciting or vigorous day was all that was necessary to trigger the headache.
For those of you who don’t share my contention that childhood migraine is usually the result of sleep deprivation, consider the similarity between an epileptic seizure, which can be triggered by fatigue. Both events are usually followed by a deep sleep from which the child wakes refreshed and symptom free.
I think it is interesting that this recent meta-analysis could find no benefit in the quality of life for any of the medications. The explanation may be that the child with migraine already had a somewhat diminished quality of life as a result of the sleep deprivation, either acute or chronic.
When speaking with parents of migraine sufferers, I would tell them that once the headache had started there was little I had to offer to forestall the inevitable pain and vomiting. Certainly not in the form of an oral medication. While many adults will have an aura that warns them of the headache onset, I have found that most children don’t describe an aura. It may be they simply lack the ability to express it. Occasionally an observant parent may detect pallor or a behavior change that indicates a migraine is beginning. On rare occasions a parent may be able to abort the attack by quickly getting the child to a quiet, dark, and calm environment.
Although this recent meta-analysis review of treatment options is discouraging, it may be providing a clue to effective prophylaxis. Some of the medications that decrease the frequency of the attacks may be doing so because they improve the patient’s sleep patterns. Those that decrease the intensity of the pain are probably working on pain pathway that is not specific to migraine.
Continuing a search for a prophylactic medication is a worthy goal, particularly for those patients in which their migraines are debilitating. However, based on my experience, enhanced by my bias, the safest and most effective prophylaxis results from increasing the family’s awareness of the role that sleep deprivation plays in the illness. Even when the family buys into the message and attempts to avoid situations that will tax their vulnerable children, parents will need to accept that sometimes stuff happens even though siblings and peers may be able to tolerate the situation. Spontaneous activities can converge on a day when for whatever reason the migraine-prone child is overtired and the headache and vomiting will erupt.
A lifestyle change is always preferable to a pharmacological intervention. However, that doesn’t mean it is always easy to achieve.
Dr. Wilkoff practiced primary care pediatrics in Brunswick, Maine, for nearly 40 years. He has authored several books on behavioral pediatrics, including “How to Say No to Your Toddler.” Other than a Littman stethoscope he accepted as a first-year medical student in 1966, Dr. Wilkoff reports having nothing to disclose. Email him at pdnews@mdedge.com.
I suspect you all have some experience with childhood migraine. It can mean a painful several hours for the patient, arriving often without warning, with recurrences spaced months or sometimes even years apart. It may be accompanied by vomiting, which in some cases overshadows the severity of the headache. It can result in lost days from school and ruin family activities. It can occur so infrequently that the family can’t recall accurately when the last episode happened. In some ways it is a different animal than the adult version.
Most of the pediatric patients with migraine I have seen have experienced attacks that were occurring so infrequently that the families and I seldom discussed medication as an option. Back then imipramine was the only choice. However, currently there are more than a half dozen medications and combinations that have been tried. Recently a review of 45 clinical trials of these medications was published in JAMA Network Open.
I will let you review for yourself the details of these Iranian investigators’ network meta-analysis, but the bottom line is that some medications were associated with a reduction in migraine frequency. Others were associated with headache intensity. “However, no treatments were associated with significant improvements in quality of life or reduction of the duration of migraine attacks.”
Obviously, this paper illustrates clearly that we have not yet discovered the medicinal magic bullet for pediatric migraine prophylaxis. This doesn’t surprise me. After listening to scores of families tell their migraine stories, it became apparent to me that there was often a pattern in which the child’s headache had arrived after a period of acute sleep deprivation. For example, a trip to an amusement park in which travel or excitement may have resulted in the child going to bed later and/or getting up earlier. By afternoon the child’s reserves of something (currently unknown) were depleted to a point that the headache and/or vomiting struck.
Because these episodes were often so infrequent, separated by months, that taking a history demonstrating a recurring pattern could take considerable patience on the part of the family and the provider, even for a physician like myself who believes that better sleep is the answer for everything. However, once I could convince a family of the connection between the sleep deprivation and the headaches, they could often recall other episodes in the past that substantiated my explanation.
In some cases there was no obvious history of acute sleep deprivation, or at least it was so subtle that even a history taker with a sleep obsession couldn’t detect it. However, in these cases I could usually elicit a history of chronic sleep deprivation. For example, falling asleep instantly on automobile rides, difficulty with waking in the morning, or unhealthy bedtime routines. With this underlying vulnerability of chronic sleep deprivation, a slightly more exciting or vigorous day was all that was necessary to trigger the headache.
For those of you who don’t share my contention that childhood migraine is usually the result of sleep deprivation, consider the similarity between an epileptic seizure, which can be triggered by fatigue. Both events are usually followed by a deep sleep from which the child wakes refreshed and symptom free.
I think it is interesting that this recent meta-analysis could find no benefit in the quality of life for any of the medications. The explanation may be that the child with migraine already had a somewhat diminished quality of life as a result of the sleep deprivation, either acute or chronic.
When speaking with parents of migraine sufferers, I would tell them that once the headache had started there was little I had to offer to forestall the inevitable pain and vomiting. Certainly not in the form of an oral medication. While many adults will have an aura that warns them of the headache onset, I have found that most children don’t describe an aura. It may be they simply lack the ability to express it. Occasionally an observant parent may detect pallor or a behavior change that indicates a migraine is beginning. On rare occasions a parent may be able to abort the attack by quickly getting the child to a quiet, dark, and calm environment.
Although this recent meta-analysis review of treatment options is discouraging, it may be providing a clue to effective prophylaxis. Some of the medications that decrease the frequency of the attacks may be doing so because they improve the patient’s sleep patterns. Those that decrease the intensity of the pain are probably working on pain pathway that is not specific to migraine.
Continuing a search for a prophylactic medication is a worthy goal, particularly for those patients in which their migraines are debilitating. However, based on my experience, enhanced by my bias, the safest and most effective prophylaxis results from increasing the family’s awareness of the role that sleep deprivation plays in the illness. Even when the family buys into the message and attempts to avoid situations that will tax their vulnerable children, parents will need to accept that sometimes stuff happens even though siblings and peers may be able to tolerate the situation. Spontaneous activities can converge on a day when for whatever reason the migraine-prone child is overtired and the headache and vomiting will erupt.
A lifestyle change is always preferable to a pharmacological intervention. However, that doesn’t mean it is always easy to achieve.
Dr. Wilkoff practiced primary care pediatrics in Brunswick, Maine, for nearly 40 years. He has authored several books on behavioral pediatrics, including “How to Say No to Your Toddler.” Other than a Littman stethoscope he accepted as a first-year medical student in 1966, Dr. Wilkoff reports having nothing to disclose. Email him at pdnews@mdedge.com.
Should the Body Roundness Index Replace BMI?
In daily practice, physicians need a quick and simple way to assess whether a patient’s weight presents a health risk. For decades, the body mass index (BMI) has been used for this purpose, with calculations based on height and weight. Despite its convenience, BMI has faced increasing criticism.
According to experts, BRI may more accurately identify people with high levels of visceral fat than BMI. It’s well documented that abdominal fat is strongly linked to higher risks for obesity-related diseases.
Studies Support BRI
Several studies have suggested that BRI could be a valuable tool for assessing health risks. In June of this year, researchers from China reported a significant U-shaped association between BRI and overall mortality in a paper published in JAMA Network Open. People with very low or very high BRI had an increased risk for death, noted Xiaoqian Zhang, MD, from Beijing University of Chinese Medicine, Beijing, China, and his colleagues.
A study published in September in the Journal of the American Heart Association showed that elevated BRI over several years was associated with an increased risk for cardiovascular diseases. “The BRI can be included as a predictive factor for cardiovascular disease incidence,” stated the authors, led by Man Yang, MD, from Nanjing Medical University in Nanjing, China.
Why Replace BMI?
Why is a replacement for BMI necessary? When asked by this news organization, Manfred Müller, MD, senior professor at the Institute of Human Nutrition and Food Science at the University of Kiel, in Germany, explained: “BMI was designed to provide a simple value that was as independent of body size as possible, that could detect obesity and estimate related disease risks. But scientifically, BMI has always been a very crude measure to characterize disease risks.”
Müller was part of a research group led by US mathematician Diana Thomas, PhD, who, at the time, worked at Montclair State University, Montclair, New Jersey, and now holds a position at the US Military Academy at West Point, in New York. The group developed and published the BRI in 2013.
BMI Classifies Bodybuilders as Obese
The researchers justified their search for a “better” anthropometric measure with two aspects of BMI that still constitute the main points of criticism of the widely used index today:
BMI incorrectly classifies individuals with significant muscle mass, like bodybuilders, as obese, as it doesn’t distinguish between fat and muscle mass.
BMI provides no information about fat distribution in the body — whether it’s concentrated in the hips or the abdomen, for example.
In practice, this means that a person with a normal BMI could already have prediabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol, which might go undetected if no further investigations are conducted based solely on their BMI.
The BRI aims to solve this problem. As the name suggests, this index seeks to capture a person’s “roundness.” The formula for calculating BRI includes waist circumference and height but excludes body weight:
BRI = 364.2 − 365.5 × √(1 − [Waist circumference in cm/2π]²/[0.5 × Height in cm]²)
In their 2013 article, Thomas, Müller, and colleagues wrote that it still needed to be proven whether their newly developed index correlated with mortality and the risk for cardiovascular and metabolic diseases — and whether it was sufficiently better than BMI to justify the more complex calculation.
Could BRI Replace BMI?
Opinions differ on whether the BRI should replace the BMI. Zhang’s team concluded that the BRI needs to be validated in additional independent cohorts. If it does, it could become a practical screening tool in patient care.
Yang’s research group is optimistic about the BRI’s future: “The longitudinal trajectory of the BRI could be used as a novel indicator of cardiovascular disease risk, which provides a new possibility for cardiovascular disease prevention,” they wrote.
However, even BRI Co-creator Thomas has concerns. “Our entire medical system has been built around the BMI,” she told JAMA, referring to factors such as children’s growth charts and dosage recommendations for medications. That cannot be changed overnight.
Any anthropometric measure intended to replace BMI would need to be rigorously validated across all age groups, genders, and ethnicities. The impact of interventions such as bariatric surgery, diet, and exercise on the new measure would also need to be demonstrated.
Anthropometric Measures Only for Clinical Use
Even if BRI proves to be a “better” metric than BMI for patient care, Müller believes it would be no more suitable for research than BMI. “Regardless of the anthropometric measure, these are practical tools for everyday use,” he stressed.
“A high BRI, like a high BMI, is a risk factor — similar to high blood pressure, high cholesterol levels, or smoking — but it is not a disease,” he added. “In practice, as a physician, I know that a patient with a high BMI or BRI has an increased risk. I need to pay attention to that patient.”
Problems arise when indices like BMI or BRI are used in research. “These ‘invented’ anthropometric measures have no biological basis, which can harm obesity research,” Müller emphasized.
He cited the example of genetic research into obesity, which seeks to identify associations between specific genetic patterns and BMI values. “Why should weight in kilograms divided by height in meters squared be genetically determined?” he asked. “These measures are human-made constructs that have nothing to do with biology.”
Müller believes that the use of BMI has created a “gray area in obesity research” that may account for many of the “unexplained” phenomena in this field.
The BMI Might Be Responsible for the ‘Healthy Obese’
One such phenomenon is the much-discussed “healthy obese,” referring to individuals with a BMI over 30 who do not have high blood sugar, high blood pressure, metabolic disorders, or elevated uric acid levels. “It’s speculated that it must be due to genetic factors, but in reality, the classification is simply wrong,” Müller said.
According to Müller, research should rely on other methods to determine obesity or relevant fat. For example, to assess diabetes risk, liver fat needs to be measured through enzyme tests, ultrasonography, CT, or MRI.
Visceral fat is also important in assessing cardiometabolic risk. “In the doctor’s office, it’s acceptable to estimate this by looking at waist circumference or even BRI. But for research, that’s inadequate,” noted Müller. Direct measurement of trunk fat with dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry or visceral fat with CT or MRI is needed.
“You always have to distinguish between research and patient care. In daily practice, measures like BRI or BMI are sufficient for assessing cardiometabolic risk. But in research, they are not,” Müller explained. To accurately study the disease risks associated with obesity, one must be aware that “with BMI, you cannot create scientifically valid patient or population groups because this value is far too imprecise.”
This story was translated from Medscape’s German edition using several editorial tools, including AI, as part of the process. Human editors reviewed this content before publication. A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
In daily practice, physicians need a quick and simple way to assess whether a patient’s weight presents a health risk. For decades, the body mass index (BMI) has been used for this purpose, with calculations based on height and weight. Despite its convenience, BMI has faced increasing criticism.
According to experts, BRI may more accurately identify people with high levels of visceral fat than BMI. It’s well documented that abdominal fat is strongly linked to higher risks for obesity-related diseases.
Studies Support BRI
Several studies have suggested that BRI could be a valuable tool for assessing health risks. In June of this year, researchers from China reported a significant U-shaped association between BRI and overall mortality in a paper published in JAMA Network Open. People with very low or very high BRI had an increased risk for death, noted Xiaoqian Zhang, MD, from Beijing University of Chinese Medicine, Beijing, China, and his colleagues.
A study published in September in the Journal of the American Heart Association showed that elevated BRI over several years was associated with an increased risk for cardiovascular diseases. “The BRI can be included as a predictive factor for cardiovascular disease incidence,” stated the authors, led by Man Yang, MD, from Nanjing Medical University in Nanjing, China.
Why Replace BMI?
Why is a replacement for BMI necessary? When asked by this news organization, Manfred Müller, MD, senior professor at the Institute of Human Nutrition and Food Science at the University of Kiel, in Germany, explained: “BMI was designed to provide a simple value that was as independent of body size as possible, that could detect obesity and estimate related disease risks. But scientifically, BMI has always been a very crude measure to characterize disease risks.”
Müller was part of a research group led by US mathematician Diana Thomas, PhD, who, at the time, worked at Montclair State University, Montclair, New Jersey, and now holds a position at the US Military Academy at West Point, in New York. The group developed and published the BRI in 2013.
BMI Classifies Bodybuilders as Obese
The researchers justified their search for a “better” anthropometric measure with two aspects of BMI that still constitute the main points of criticism of the widely used index today:
BMI incorrectly classifies individuals with significant muscle mass, like bodybuilders, as obese, as it doesn’t distinguish between fat and muscle mass.
BMI provides no information about fat distribution in the body — whether it’s concentrated in the hips or the abdomen, for example.
In practice, this means that a person with a normal BMI could already have prediabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol, which might go undetected if no further investigations are conducted based solely on their BMI.
The BRI aims to solve this problem. As the name suggests, this index seeks to capture a person’s “roundness.” The formula for calculating BRI includes waist circumference and height but excludes body weight:
BRI = 364.2 − 365.5 × √(1 − [Waist circumference in cm/2π]²/[0.5 × Height in cm]²)
In their 2013 article, Thomas, Müller, and colleagues wrote that it still needed to be proven whether their newly developed index correlated with mortality and the risk for cardiovascular and metabolic diseases — and whether it was sufficiently better than BMI to justify the more complex calculation.
Could BRI Replace BMI?
Opinions differ on whether the BRI should replace the BMI. Zhang’s team concluded that the BRI needs to be validated in additional independent cohorts. If it does, it could become a practical screening tool in patient care.
Yang’s research group is optimistic about the BRI’s future: “The longitudinal trajectory of the BRI could be used as a novel indicator of cardiovascular disease risk, which provides a new possibility for cardiovascular disease prevention,” they wrote.
However, even BRI Co-creator Thomas has concerns. “Our entire medical system has been built around the BMI,” she told JAMA, referring to factors such as children’s growth charts and dosage recommendations for medications. That cannot be changed overnight.
Any anthropometric measure intended to replace BMI would need to be rigorously validated across all age groups, genders, and ethnicities. The impact of interventions such as bariatric surgery, diet, and exercise on the new measure would also need to be demonstrated.
Anthropometric Measures Only for Clinical Use
Even if BRI proves to be a “better” metric than BMI for patient care, Müller believes it would be no more suitable for research than BMI. “Regardless of the anthropometric measure, these are practical tools for everyday use,” he stressed.
“A high BRI, like a high BMI, is a risk factor — similar to high blood pressure, high cholesterol levels, or smoking — but it is not a disease,” he added. “In practice, as a physician, I know that a patient with a high BMI or BRI has an increased risk. I need to pay attention to that patient.”
Problems arise when indices like BMI or BRI are used in research. “These ‘invented’ anthropometric measures have no biological basis, which can harm obesity research,” Müller emphasized.
He cited the example of genetic research into obesity, which seeks to identify associations between specific genetic patterns and BMI values. “Why should weight in kilograms divided by height in meters squared be genetically determined?” he asked. “These measures are human-made constructs that have nothing to do with biology.”
Müller believes that the use of BMI has created a “gray area in obesity research” that may account for many of the “unexplained” phenomena in this field.
The BMI Might Be Responsible for the ‘Healthy Obese’
One such phenomenon is the much-discussed “healthy obese,” referring to individuals with a BMI over 30 who do not have high blood sugar, high blood pressure, metabolic disorders, or elevated uric acid levels. “It’s speculated that it must be due to genetic factors, but in reality, the classification is simply wrong,” Müller said.
According to Müller, research should rely on other methods to determine obesity or relevant fat. For example, to assess diabetes risk, liver fat needs to be measured through enzyme tests, ultrasonography, CT, or MRI.
Visceral fat is also important in assessing cardiometabolic risk. “In the doctor’s office, it’s acceptable to estimate this by looking at waist circumference or even BRI. But for research, that’s inadequate,” noted Müller. Direct measurement of trunk fat with dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry or visceral fat with CT or MRI is needed.
“You always have to distinguish between research and patient care. In daily practice, measures like BRI or BMI are sufficient for assessing cardiometabolic risk. But in research, they are not,” Müller explained. To accurately study the disease risks associated with obesity, one must be aware that “with BMI, you cannot create scientifically valid patient or population groups because this value is far too imprecise.”
This story was translated from Medscape’s German edition using several editorial tools, including AI, as part of the process. Human editors reviewed this content before publication. A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
In daily practice, physicians need a quick and simple way to assess whether a patient’s weight presents a health risk. For decades, the body mass index (BMI) has been used for this purpose, with calculations based on height and weight. Despite its convenience, BMI has faced increasing criticism.
According to experts, BRI may more accurately identify people with high levels of visceral fat than BMI. It’s well documented that abdominal fat is strongly linked to higher risks for obesity-related diseases.
Studies Support BRI
Several studies have suggested that BRI could be a valuable tool for assessing health risks. In June of this year, researchers from China reported a significant U-shaped association between BRI and overall mortality in a paper published in JAMA Network Open. People with very low or very high BRI had an increased risk for death, noted Xiaoqian Zhang, MD, from Beijing University of Chinese Medicine, Beijing, China, and his colleagues.
A study published in September in the Journal of the American Heart Association showed that elevated BRI over several years was associated with an increased risk for cardiovascular diseases. “The BRI can be included as a predictive factor for cardiovascular disease incidence,” stated the authors, led by Man Yang, MD, from Nanjing Medical University in Nanjing, China.
Why Replace BMI?
Why is a replacement for BMI necessary? When asked by this news organization, Manfred Müller, MD, senior professor at the Institute of Human Nutrition and Food Science at the University of Kiel, in Germany, explained: “BMI was designed to provide a simple value that was as independent of body size as possible, that could detect obesity and estimate related disease risks. But scientifically, BMI has always been a very crude measure to characterize disease risks.”
Müller was part of a research group led by US mathematician Diana Thomas, PhD, who, at the time, worked at Montclair State University, Montclair, New Jersey, and now holds a position at the US Military Academy at West Point, in New York. The group developed and published the BRI in 2013.
BMI Classifies Bodybuilders as Obese
The researchers justified their search for a “better” anthropometric measure with two aspects of BMI that still constitute the main points of criticism of the widely used index today:
BMI incorrectly classifies individuals with significant muscle mass, like bodybuilders, as obese, as it doesn’t distinguish between fat and muscle mass.
BMI provides no information about fat distribution in the body — whether it’s concentrated in the hips or the abdomen, for example.
In practice, this means that a person with a normal BMI could already have prediabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol, which might go undetected if no further investigations are conducted based solely on their BMI.
The BRI aims to solve this problem. As the name suggests, this index seeks to capture a person’s “roundness.” The formula for calculating BRI includes waist circumference and height but excludes body weight:
BRI = 364.2 − 365.5 × √(1 − [Waist circumference in cm/2π]²/[0.5 × Height in cm]²)
In their 2013 article, Thomas, Müller, and colleagues wrote that it still needed to be proven whether their newly developed index correlated with mortality and the risk for cardiovascular and metabolic diseases — and whether it was sufficiently better than BMI to justify the more complex calculation.
Could BRI Replace BMI?
Opinions differ on whether the BRI should replace the BMI. Zhang’s team concluded that the BRI needs to be validated in additional independent cohorts. If it does, it could become a practical screening tool in patient care.
Yang’s research group is optimistic about the BRI’s future: “The longitudinal trajectory of the BRI could be used as a novel indicator of cardiovascular disease risk, which provides a new possibility for cardiovascular disease prevention,” they wrote.
However, even BRI Co-creator Thomas has concerns. “Our entire medical system has been built around the BMI,” she told JAMA, referring to factors such as children’s growth charts and dosage recommendations for medications. That cannot be changed overnight.
Any anthropometric measure intended to replace BMI would need to be rigorously validated across all age groups, genders, and ethnicities. The impact of interventions such as bariatric surgery, diet, and exercise on the new measure would also need to be demonstrated.
Anthropometric Measures Only for Clinical Use
Even if BRI proves to be a “better” metric than BMI for patient care, Müller believes it would be no more suitable for research than BMI. “Regardless of the anthropometric measure, these are practical tools for everyday use,” he stressed.
“A high BRI, like a high BMI, is a risk factor — similar to high blood pressure, high cholesterol levels, or smoking — but it is not a disease,” he added. “In practice, as a physician, I know that a patient with a high BMI or BRI has an increased risk. I need to pay attention to that patient.”
Problems arise when indices like BMI or BRI are used in research. “These ‘invented’ anthropometric measures have no biological basis, which can harm obesity research,” Müller emphasized.
He cited the example of genetic research into obesity, which seeks to identify associations between specific genetic patterns and BMI values. “Why should weight in kilograms divided by height in meters squared be genetically determined?” he asked. “These measures are human-made constructs that have nothing to do with biology.”
Müller believes that the use of BMI has created a “gray area in obesity research” that may account for many of the “unexplained” phenomena in this field.
The BMI Might Be Responsible for the ‘Healthy Obese’
One such phenomenon is the much-discussed “healthy obese,” referring to individuals with a BMI over 30 who do not have high blood sugar, high blood pressure, metabolic disorders, or elevated uric acid levels. “It’s speculated that it must be due to genetic factors, but in reality, the classification is simply wrong,” Müller said.
According to Müller, research should rely on other methods to determine obesity or relevant fat. For example, to assess diabetes risk, liver fat needs to be measured through enzyme tests, ultrasonography, CT, or MRI.
Visceral fat is also important in assessing cardiometabolic risk. “In the doctor’s office, it’s acceptable to estimate this by looking at waist circumference or even BRI. But for research, that’s inadequate,” noted Müller. Direct measurement of trunk fat with dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry or visceral fat with CT or MRI is needed.
“You always have to distinguish between research and patient care. In daily practice, measures like BRI or BMI are sufficient for assessing cardiometabolic risk. But in research, they are not,” Müller explained. To accurately study the disease risks associated with obesity, one must be aware that “with BMI, you cannot create scientifically valid patient or population groups because this value is far too imprecise.”
This story was translated from Medscape’s German edition using several editorial tools, including AI, as part of the process. Human editors reviewed this content before publication. A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
Know the Ins and Outs of Prescribing Obesity Medications in Pediatric Patients
ORLANDO, FLORIDA — The rationale for using obesity medications in pediatric patients is that it’s using “a biological intervention to treat a biologically based disease,” according to Claudia Fox, MD, MPH, an associate professor of pediatrics and codirector of the Center for Pediatric Obesity Medicine at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis. At the annual meeting of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), Fox provided
“This field is changing so rapidly that even over the course of the last 3 or 4 months, the verbiage around what we should be calling these interventions has changed,” Fox noted. Instead of “anti-obesity” medications, “most of us are now using the term obesity medications to highlight or to reduce chances of stigma and bias that can come along with this topic.”
Jessica Ivers, MD, a pediatrician at Swedish Pediatrics in Seattle, Washington, said she found the session very informative, particularly because she doesn’t think many pediatricians currently feel very comfortable prescribing obesity medications.
“It answered questions that any general pediatrician would have, and it’s kind of a new field that people are learning about,” Ivers said. “I think we just need more education. It’s just too new, and people haven’t had the education and the support from colleagues to [use the medications].”
Fox first reminded attendees of precisely what obesity is: A chronic, relapsing, multifactorial, neurobehavioral disease that involves the accumulation and/or distribution of excess body fat that results in impaired health. AAP clinical practice guidelines currently advise that youth aged 12 years or older who have obesity be offered weight loss pharmacotherapy as an adjunct to lifestyle treatment, taking into consideration the indications, risks, and benefits of each medication.
That doesn’t necessarily mean every child aged 12 years or older with a body mass index (BMI) of at least the 95th percentile should be prescribed one of these medications, Fox said. But pediatricians should start becoming familiar with the options and recognize that part of reducing the stigma of this disease is emphasizing that these medications are prescribed not for “weight loss” but to treat the disease of obesity, Fox said. The guidelines advise “early, intensive care” and focusing on the whole child, “using a family-centered and nonstigmatizing approach that acknowledges obesity’s biologic, social, and structural drivers.”
Offer the Full Spectrum of Care Early On
Early intervention means starting obesity treatment at diagnosis, without watchful waiting or the previously recommended staged approach. Instead of trying lifestyle therapy for 3-6 months, then considering the addition of medication, and then considering bariatric surgery, “we should be offering the full spectrum of obesity care as appropriate for that individual patient,” Fox said.
Some children with severe obesity may need the combination of lifestyle therapy and pharmacotherapy right up front, whereas another might be able to try lifestyle therapy alone for a while first. “What we know is that, for most interventions, whether it is lifestyle therapy, a medication, or bariatric surgery, early response typically predicts longer-term response,” Fox said. A study conducted by her group, for example, found that a 3% BMI reduction after 1 month with lifestyle therapy was very predictive of clinically meaningful BMI reduction at 1 year.
As with any medical treatment, physicians need to weigh the risks of the medication — short-term side effects and unknown long-term risks (or benefits) — against the risks of not treating. Because obesity is a progressive disease, “if we don’t treat it, most will develop comorbid conditions, or worsening of their already present comorbid conditions, and this does indeed lead to shortened life expectancy,” Fox said. Those who should be treated with medication are obviously those in whom the benefits outweigh the risks, Fox said, which depends on their age, their comorbidities, the severity of obesity, and the safety and efficacy of medication options.
“If I have a patient who has maybe class 2 obesity but no other comorbid conditions, I may be less inclined to start an obesity medication than a kid who has class 1 obesity and obstructive sleep apnea, for instance,” Fox said. “Some of the medications are very, very potent and effective. If you have a kid who maybe has less severe forms of obesity, perhaps they don’t need something that’s so potent.”
BMI trajectory is also a factor to consider. She said she may not be too concerned about a 16-year-old who has always been at the 95th percentile and is otherwise healthy, but the situation is different for a 16-year-old who used to be in the 25th percentile and has rapidly progressed to the 50th and then 75th percentiles in a trajectory heading straight up.
Another factor that may come into play is the patient and family preferences, though Fox noted that weight bias and stigma often interfere here. If obesity medications are brought up, the family may bring up the need for more exercise and better meal prep at home.
“They have this sense that they just need to try harder, that if they did that, the obesity would somehow get better on its own,” Fox said. “That’s an internalized bias that it’s somehow their fault, rather than realizing that this is indeed a biological disorder.”
Finally, clinicians may want to consider the child’s response to lifestyle therapy and whether they have already had bariatric surgery because these medications can be prescribed in people who did not have an adequate response to surgery.
Overview of the Medications
There are currently six obesity medications approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use in youth: Phentermine, orlistat, liraglutide, phentermine/topiramate, semaglutide, and setmelanotide.
Of these, orlistat is rarely used now because it results in the least amount of change in BMI (about a 3% loss change in BMI), has a lot of gastrointestinal side effects, often is not covered by insurance, and is expensive out of pocket. Setmelanotide is indicated only in those aged 6 years or older who have obesity because of Bardet-Biedl syndrome or one of three other rare genetic conditions: a POMC, LEPR, or PCSK1 deficiency. Fox therefore focused on the other medications besides these two.
While nearly all the currently available obesity medications are only approved in those aged 12 years or older, Fox noted that studies are ongoing at younger ages, so some of these medications may receive approval in younger populations in the future. The only one currently available for a younger age is liraglutide, which is approved down to 6 years old in children with type 2 diabetes.
“Very young kids who have very severe forms of obesity need intervention, and unfortunately, at this point, we really don’t have much to offer them,” Fox said.
Fox highlighted six key factors to consider in selecting a medication for those aged 12 years or older, though one of these, in the US healthcare system, can tend to trump all the others. Those factors are mechanism of action, side effect profile, effects on other diagnoses, patient/family preferences, provider comfort, and finally — the potentially overruling one — insurance coverage and access.
“These days, insurance coverage and access are really the No. 1 driver when I’m seeing a patient,” Fox said. “The first thing I do is look at their insurance and then also look at what kind of updates our pharmacist has given us about which medication is currently in stock.”
Each medication has different properties that should be considered with the child’s health profile. For example, topiramate is a carbonic anhydrase inhibitor so likely shouldn’t be prescribed in a child who is taking any other carbonic anhydrase inhibitor. Fox said she probably wouldn’t prescribe phentermine in a child with severe anxiety because it might enhance the anxiety effect. But if a child has migraines, she may be more inclined to try phentermine/topiramate first because the topiramate may help with the migraines. Similarly, if a child has type 2 diabetes or prediabetes, she may lean toward one of the glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) agonist drugs.
Liraglutide and Semaglutide
Liraglutide and semaglutide are both GLP-1 receptor agonists administered subcutaneously to reduce appetite, increase satiety, slow gastric emptying, and reduce the food reward response in the brain. Liraglutide can result in up to 4.5%-5% change in BMI, and semaglutide, the most potent of all the medications, can result in up to a 17% change in BMI.
Liraglutide and semaglutide are both approved for patients aged 12 years or older who weigh at least 60 kg and have a BMI of at least the 95th percentile. Liraglutide is also approved for those aged 10 years or older with type 2 diabetes. Both are contraindicated in those with a family history of medullary thyroid cancer or multiple endocrine neoplasia II. The risks to watch for include pancreatitis and gallbladder disease. Also keep in mind if you have a patient with type 1 diabetes and insulin resistance; prescribing a GLP-1 agonist is appropriate, but their insulin needs will decrease, necessitating close monitoring of their blood glucose, Fox noted.
These GLP-1 medications can be considered for those who have insurance coverage for them, who have diabetes or prediabetes, who are comfortable with daily (liraglutide) or weekly (semaglutide) injections, who have food cravings, and who have poor satiety or satiation. Without insurance, these medications are very expensive.
The most common side effects include injection site reactions and nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, though all these usually fade and can be minimized with small portions and slower eating if needed. Less common possible side effects can include abdominal pain, constipation, headache, dizziness, fatigue, and hypoglycemia. If patients develop severe belly pain that radiates to their back, they should be assessed for pancreatitis.
It’s also important to demonstrate for patients how to do the injections, Fox said. Liraglutide dosing begins at 0.6 mg daily for a week, followed by a week at 1.2 mg, a week at 1.8 mg, a week at 2.4 mg, and then 3 mg daily. Semaglutide dosing starts at 0.25 mg weekly for 4 weeks, then going up each subsequent month as needed to 0.5 mg, then 1 mg, then 1.7 mg, and finally 2.4 mg. Though there’s no standard follow-up schedule for these medications, Fox suggested considering monthly visits for the first 3 months and then every 2-3 months to assess heart rate and blood pressure, the injection site, adherence, side effects, and the effect on BMI and eating.
“Are they getting appetite suppression, but not too much appetite suppression?” Fox said. “Just like in eating disorder treatment, we want our patients to eat regularly spaced meals. If their appetite is so suppressed that they are hardly eating anything, that’s a problem.”
Fox also offered the following additional pearls about these medications:
- Though manufacturers have struggled to keep up with demand, the shortages of these medications are improving. However, beware the compounding pharmacies filling the gap because compounded medications are not FDA approved, and quality control issues are a concern.
- Prior authorizations are usually needed, and common reasons for denial to anticipate include lack of documentation on not having contraindications, the patient not following a low-calorie diet or engaging in physical activity, and the patient not having seen a registered dietitian.
- Patients should expect gastrointestinal side effects, but ondansetron can be prescribed to lessen the intensity.
Phentermine/Topiramate
Phentermine/topiramate extended-release is a once-daily oral tablet, with the phentermine acting to reduce appetite (by simulating the release of norepinephrine) and the topiramate reducing caloric intake and food reward response (by increasing gamma-aminobutyric acid activity). It’s approved for those aged 12 years or older with a BMI of at least the 95th percentile and should be considered in those with strong hunger, low energy, binge eating disorder, or migraines, as well as those who have insurance coverage for it. It can result in up to a 10% change in BMI.
Contraindications include pregnancy, substance use, cardiovascular disease (though it’s okay in patients with controlled hypertension), hyperthyroidism, glaucoma, and monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI) use. Fox emphasized the teratogenic effects, so patients capable of pregnancy need to be on reliable birth control. The most common side effects include paresthesia, dizziness, dysgeusia, insomnia, and constipation.
A risk of topiramate is kidney stones, so patients should drink a lot of water, especially in hot weather, Fox said. Other risks can include metabolic acidosis, suicidality, poor cognitive function, high blood pressure, and renal impairment.
“If your patient is struggling academically, I might use this medication a bit more cautiously, particularly when the dose gets above 100 mg a day,” Fox said. “That’s when the cognitive effects tend to emerge more strongly.”
Patients with congenital heart disease should meet with their cardiologist before starting this medication, and although patients taking selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) can take this, there is a potential increased risk for serotonin syndrome because phentermine has a little bit of serotonergic activity, she said.
Before prescribing, do an exam to ensure the patient doesn’t have a heart murmur, isn’t hypertensive, isn’t pregnant, has normal kidney function, and has bicarbonate in a reasonable range. Dosing begins with a daily 3.75/23-mg capsule for 2 weeks, followed by 2 weeks at 7.5 mg/46 mg. As with the GLP-1 drugs, Fox advises considering monthly follow-ups for the first 3 months and then visits every 2-3 months. Each visit should include the assessment of cardiovascular health, heart rate, blood pressure, side effects, pregnancy risk, and the medication’s effect on BMI and eating. If the patient is tolerating a dose of 7.5 mg/46 mg, it can be increased to 11.25 mg/69 mg for 2 weeks and then to 15 mg/92 mg. Bicarbonate and creatinine should be checked every 6-12 months; if bicarbonate < 18 mEq/L, the dose should be reduced and then bicarbonate should be checked again a month later.
Fox noted that this drug is expected to go off patent in late 2024 or in 2025, which will substantially reduce the cost. It’s also possible to prescribe phentermine and topiramate separately, which may reduce costs or help with insurance coverage and can allow for evening dosing of topiramate.
Phentermine
Phentermine alone is only approved for those older than 16 years who have a BMI of at least 30, or at least 27 with weight-related comorbidities, and it’s not approved for use longer than 12 weeks. It results in a BMI change of up to 5%. It should be considered in those with strong hunger and low energy and in those who don’t have adequate insurance coverage because out-of-pocket costs can be as little as $5/mo.
Contraindications are the same as those for the combined pill above: Substance use, cardiovascular disease, hyperthyroidism, glaucoma, MAOI use, and agitation. Again, take caution with patients who have hypertension, have congenital heart disease, or take SSRIs or insulin.
Side effects can include palpitations, tachycardia, dry mouth, headache, insomnia, and anxiety. The dose starts at 15 mg daily, and Fox advises following a similar follow-up as with the other medications, at which clinicians should assess BMI, the medication’s effect on eating, cardiovascular health, and side effects and have a discussion about off-label use. Off-label use refers to prescriptions lasting longer than 12 weeks, but it’s arguably safer than attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder stimulants because of the lower addiction potential, Fox said.
What Else to Know
Because obesity is a chronic disease, treatment will be ongoing, Fox noted. A lot of people will ask when or where the “off-ramp” for these medications is, but many people will need these medications long term just as someone with other chronic diseases requires lifetime pharmacotherapy. The treatment intensity will vary based on disease severity and individual characteristics, Fox said.
For those feeling overwhelmed by the options, Fox advises clinicians to start by picking one medication to learn and then spending the time to read the FDA package insert in full. Get samples and then closely follow patients to learn that medication well before moving on to learn another. She also noted the opportunity for pediatricians to see a pediatric obesity medicine fellowship.
No external funding was used for the presentation. Fox is a site principal investigator for clinical trials sponsored by Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly. Ivers had no disclosures.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
ORLANDO, FLORIDA — The rationale for using obesity medications in pediatric patients is that it’s using “a biological intervention to treat a biologically based disease,” according to Claudia Fox, MD, MPH, an associate professor of pediatrics and codirector of the Center for Pediatric Obesity Medicine at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis. At the annual meeting of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), Fox provided
“This field is changing so rapidly that even over the course of the last 3 or 4 months, the verbiage around what we should be calling these interventions has changed,” Fox noted. Instead of “anti-obesity” medications, “most of us are now using the term obesity medications to highlight or to reduce chances of stigma and bias that can come along with this topic.”
Jessica Ivers, MD, a pediatrician at Swedish Pediatrics in Seattle, Washington, said she found the session very informative, particularly because she doesn’t think many pediatricians currently feel very comfortable prescribing obesity medications.
“It answered questions that any general pediatrician would have, and it’s kind of a new field that people are learning about,” Ivers said. “I think we just need more education. It’s just too new, and people haven’t had the education and the support from colleagues to [use the medications].”
Fox first reminded attendees of precisely what obesity is: A chronic, relapsing, multifactorial, neurobehavioral disease that involves the accumulation and/or distribution of excess body fat that results in impaired health. AAP clinical practice guidelines currently advise that youth aged 12 years or older who have obesity be offered weight loss pharmacotherapy as an adjunct to lifestyle treatment, taking into consideration the indications, risks, and benefits of each medication.
That doesn’t necessarily mean every child aged 12 years or older with a body mass index (BMI) of at least the 95th percentile should be prescribed one of these medications, Fox said. But pediatricians should start becoming familiar with the options and recognize that part of reducing the stigma of this disease is emphasizing that these medications are prescribed not for “weight loss” but to treat the disease of obesity, Fox said. The guidelines advise “early, intensive care” and focusing on the whole child, “using a family-centered and nonstigmatizing approach that acknowledges obesity’s biologic, social, and structural drivers.”
Offer the Full Spectrum of Care Early On
Early intervention means starting obesity treatment at diagnosis, without watchful waiting or the previously recommended staged approach. Instead of trying lifestyle therapy for 3-6 months, then considering the addition of medication, and then considering bariatric surgery, “we should be offering the full spectrum of obesity care as appropriate for that individual patient,” Fox said.
Some children with severe obesity may need the combination of lifestyle therapy and pharmacotherapy right up front, whereas another might be able to try lifestyle therapy alone for a while first. “What we know is that, for most interventions, whether it is lifestyle therapy, a medication, or bariatric surgery, early response typically predicts longer-term response,” Fox said. A study conducted by her group, for example, found that a 3% BMI reduction after 1 month with lifestyle therapy was very predictive of clinically meaningful BMI reduction at 1 year.
As with any medical treatment, physicians need to weigh the risks of the medication — short-term side effects and unknown long-term risks (or benefits) — against the risks of not treating. Because obesity is a progressive disease, “if we don’t treat it, most will develop comorbid conditions, or worsening of their already present comorbid conditions, and this does indeed lead to shortened life expectancy,” Fox said. Those who should be treated with medication are obviously those in whom the benefits outweigh the risks, Fox said, which depends on their age, their comorbidities, the severity of obesity, and the safety and efficacy of medication options.
“If I have a patient who has maybe class 2 obesity but no other comorbid conditions, I may be less inclined to start an obesity medication than a kid who has class 1 obesity and obstructive sleep apnea, for instance,” Fox said. “Some of the medications are very, very potent and effective. If you have a kid who maybe has less severe forms of obesity, perhaps they don’t need something that’s so potent.”
BMI trajectory is also a factor to consider. She said she may not be too concerned about a 16-year-old who has always been at the 95th percentile and is otherwise healthy, but the situation is different for a 16-year-old who used to be in the 25th percentile and has rapidly progressed to the 50th and then 75th percentiles in a trajectory heading straight up.
Another factor that may come into play is the patient and family preferences, though Fox noted that weight bias and stigma often interfere here. If obesity medications are brought up, the family may bring up the need for more exercise and better meal prep at home.
“They have this sense that they just need to try harder, that if they did that, the obesity would somehow get better on its own,” Fox said. “That’s an internalized bias that it’s somehow their fault, rather than realizing that this is indeed a biological disorder.”
Finally, clinicians may want to consider the child’s response to lifestyle therapy and whether they have already had bariatric surgery because these medications can be prescribed in people who did not have an adequate response to surgery.
Overview of the Medications
There are currently six obesity medications approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use in youth: Phentermine, orlistat, liraglutide, phentermine/topiramate, semaglutide, and setmelanotide.
Of these, orlistat is rarely used now because it results in the least amount of change in BMI (about a 3% loss change in BMI), has a lot of gastrointestinal side effects, often is not covered by insurance, and is expensive out of pocket. Setmelanotide is indicated only in those aged 6 years or older who have obesity because of Bardet-Biedl syndrome or one of three other rare genetic conditions: a POMC, LEPR, or PCSK1 deficiency. Fox therefore focused on the other medications besides these two.
While nearly all the currently available obesity medications are only approved in those aged 12 years or older, Fox noted that studies are ongoing at younger ages, so some of these medications may receive approval in younger populations in the future. The only one currently available for a younger age is liraglutide, which is approved down to 6 years old in children with type 2 diabetes.
“Very young kids who have very severe forms of obesity need intervention, and unfortunately, at this point, we really don’t have much to offer them,” Fox said.
Fox highlighted six key factors to consider in selecting a medication for those aged 12 years or older, though one of these, in the US healthcare system, can tend to trump all the others. Those factors are mechanism of action, side effect profile, effects on other diagnoses, patient/family preferences, provider comfort, and finally — the potentially overruling one — insurance coverage and access.
“These days, insurance coverage and access are really the No. 1 driver when I’m seeing a patient,” Fox said. “The first thing I do is look at their insurance and then also look at what kind of updates our pharmacist has given us about which medication is currently in stock.”
Each medication has different properties that should be considered with the child’s health profile. For example, topiramate is a carbonic anhydrase inhibitor so likely shouldn’t be prescribed in a child who is taking any other carbonic anhydrase inhibitor. Fox said she probably wouldn’t prescribe phentermine in a child with severe anxiety because it might enhance the anxiety effect. But if a child has migraines, she may be more inclined to try phentermine/topiramate first because the topiramate may help with the migraines. Similarly, if a child has type 2 diabetes or prediabetes, she may lean toward one of the glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) agonist drugs.
Liraglutide and Semaglutide
Liraglutide and semaglutide are both GLP-1 receptor agonists administered subcutaneously to reduce appetite, increase satiety, slow gastric emptying, and reduce the food reward response in the brain. Liraglutide can result in up to 4.5%-5% change in BMI, and semaglutide, the most potent of all the medications, can result in up to a 17% change in BMI.
Liraglutide and semaglutide are both approved for patients aged 12 years or older who weigh at least 60 kg and have a BMI of at least the 95th percentile. Liraglutide is also approved for those aged 10 years or older with type 2 diabetes. Both are contraindicated in those with a family history of medullary thyroid cancer or multiple endocrine neoplasia II. The risks to watch for include pancreatitis and gallbladder disease. Also keep in mind if you have a patient with type 1 diabetes and insulin resistance; prescribing a GLP-1 agonist is appropriate, but their insulin needs will decrease, necessitating close monitoring of their blood glucose, Fox noted.
These GLP-1 medications can be considered for those who have insurance coverage for them, who have diabetes or prediabetes, who are comfortable with daily (liraglutide) or weekly (semaglutide) injections, who have food cravings, and who have poor satiety or satiation. Without insurance, these medications are very expensive.
The most common side effects include injection site reactions and nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, though all these usually fade and can be minimized with small portions and slower eating if needed. Less common possible side effects can include abdominal pain, constipation, headache, dizziness, fatigue, and hypoglycemia. If patients develop severe belly pain that radiates to their back, they should be assessed for pancreatitis.
It’s also important to demonstrate for patients how to do the injections, Fox said. Liraglutide dosing begins at 0.6 mg daily for a week, followed by a week at 1.2 mg, a week at 1.8 mg, a week at 2.4 mg, and then 3 mg daily. Semaglutide dosing starts at 0.25 mg weekly for 4 weeks, then going up each subsequent month as needed to 0.5 mg, then 1 mg, then 1.7 mg, and finally 2.4 mg. Though there’s no standard follow-up schedule for these medications, Fox suggested considering monthly visits for the first 3 months and then every 2-3 months to assess heart rate and blood pressure, the injection site, adherence, side effects, and the effect on BMI and eating.
“Are they getting appetite suppression, but not too much appetite suppression?” Fox said. “Just like in eating disorder treatment, we want our patients to eat regularly spaced meals. If their appetite is so suppressed that they are hardly eating anything, that’s a problem.”
Fox also offered the following additional pearls about these medications:
- Though manufacturers have struggled to keep up with demand, the shortages of these medications are improving. However, beware the compounding pharmacies filling the gap because compounded medications are not FDA approved, and quality control issues are a concern.
- Prior authorizations are usually needed, and common reasons for denial to anticipate include lack of documentation on not having contraindications, the patient not following a low-calorie diet or engaging in physical activity, and the patient not having seen a registered dietitian.
- Patients should expect gastrointestinal side effects, but ondansetron can be prescribed to lessen the intensity.
Phentermine/Topiramate
Phentermine/topiramate extended-release is a once-daily oral tablet, with the phentermine acting to reduce appetite (by simulating the release of norepinephrine) and the topiramate reducing caloric intake and food reward response (by increasing gamma-aminobutyric acid activity). It’s approved for those aged 12 years or older with a BMI of at least the 95th percentile and should be considered in those with strong hunger, low energy, binge eating disorder, or migraines, as well as those who have insurance coverage for it. It can result in up to a 10% change in BMI.
Contraindications include pregnancy, substance use, cardiovascular disease (though it’s okay in patients with controlled hypertension), hyperthyroidism, glaucoma, and monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI) use. Fox emphasized the teratogenic effects, so patients capable of pregnancy need to be on reliable birth control. The most common side effects include paresthesia, dizziness, dysgeusia, insomnia, and constipation.
A risk of topiramate is kidney stones, so patients should drink a lot of water, especially in hot weather, Fox said. Other risks can include metabolic acidosis, suicidality, poor cognitive function, high blood pressure, and renal impairment.
“If your patient is struggling academically, I might use this medication a bit more cautiously, particularly when the dose gets above 100 mg a day,” Fox said. “That’s when the cognitive effects tend to emerge more strongly.”
Patients with congenital heart disease should meet with their cardiologist before starting this medication, and although patients taking selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) can take this, there is a potential increased risk for serotonin syndrome because phentermine has a little bit of serotonergic activity, she said.
Before prescribing, do an exam to ensure the patient doesn’t have a heart murmur, isn’t hypertensive, isn’t pregnant, has normal kidney function, and has bicarbonate in a reasonable range. Dosing begins with a daily 3.75/23-mg capsule for 2 weeks, followed by 2 weeks at 7.5 mg/46 mg. As with the GLP-1 drugs, Fox advises considering monthly follow-ups for the first 3 months and then visits every 2-3 months. Each visit should include the assessment of cardiovascular health, heart rate, blood pressure, side effects, pregnancy risk, and the medication’s effect on BMI and eating. If the patient is tolerating a dose of 7.5 mg/46 mg, it can be increased to 11.25 mg/69 mg for 2 weeks and then to 15 mg/92 mg. Bicarbonate and creatinine should be checked every 6-12 months; if bicarbonate < 18 mEq/L, the dose should be reduced and then bicarbonate should be checked again a month later.
Fox noted that this drug is expected to go off patent in late 2024 or in 2025, which will substantially reduce the cost. It’s also possible to prescribe phentermine and topiramate separately, which may reduce costs or help with insurance coverage and can allow for evening dosing of topiramate.
Phentermine
Phentermine alone is only approved for those older than 16 years who have a BMI of at least 30, or at least 27 with weight-related comorbidities, and it’s not approved for use longer than 12 weeks. It results in a BMI change of up to 5%. It should be considered in those with strong hunger and low energy and in those who don’t have adequate insurance coverage because out-of-pocket costs can be as little as $5/mo.
Contraindications are the same as those for the combined pill above: Substance use, cardiovascular disease, hyperthyroidism, glaucoma, MAOI use, and agitation. Again, take caution with patients who have hypertension, have congenital heart disease, or take SSRIs or insulin.
Side effects can include palpitations, tachycardia, dry mouth, headache, insomnia, and anxiety. The dose starts at 15 mg daily, and Fox advises following a similar follow-up as with the other medications, at which clinicians should assess BMI, the medication’s effect on eating, cardiovascular health, and side effects and have a discussion about off-label use. Off-label use refers to prescriptions lasting longer than 12 weeks, but it’s arguably safer than attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder stimulants because of the lower addiction potential, Fox said.
What Else to Know
Because obesity is a chronic disease, treatment will be ongoing, Fox noted. A lot of people will ask when or where the “off-ramp” for these medications is, but many people will need these medications long term just as someone with other chronic diseases requires lifetime pharmacotherapy. The treatment intensity will vary based on disease severity and individual characteristics, Fox said.
For those feeling overwhelmed by the options, Fox advises clinicians to start by picking one medication to learn and then spending the time to read the FDA package insert in full. Get samples and then closely follow patients to learn that medication well before moving on to learn another. She also noted the opportunity for pediatricians to see a pediatric obesity medicine fellowship.
No external funding was used for the presentation. Fox is a site principal investigator for clinical trials sponsored by Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly. Ivers had no disclosures.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
ORLANDO, FLORIDA — The rationale for using obesity medications in pediatric patients is that it’s using “a biological intervention to treat a biologically based disease,” according to Claudia Fox, MD, MPH, an associate professor of pediatrics and codirector of the Center for Pediatric Obesity Medicine at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis. At the annual meeting of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), Fox provided
“This field is changing so rapidly that even over the course of the last 3 or 4 months, the verbiage around what we should be calling these interventions has changed,” Fox noted. Instead of “anti-obesity” medications, “most of us are now using the term obesity medications to highlight or to reduce chances of stigma and bias that can come along with this topic.”
Jessica Ivers, MD, a pediatrician at Swedish Pediatrics in Seattle, Washington, said she found the session very informative, particularly because she doesn’t think many pediatricians currently feel very comfortable prescribing obesity medications.
“It answered questions that any general pediatrician would have, and it’s kind of a new field that people are learning about,” Ivers said. “I think we just need more education. It’s just too new, and people haven’t had the education and the support from colleagues to [use the medications].”
Fox first reminded attendees of precisely what obesity is: A chronic, relapsing, multifactorial, neurobehavioral disease that involves the accumulation and/or distribution of excess body fat that results in impaired health. AAP clinical practice guidelines currently advise that youth aged 12 years or older who have obesity be offered weight loss pharmacotherapy as an adjunct to lifestyle treatment, taking into consideration the indications, risks, and benefits of each medication.
That doesn’t necessarily mean every child aged 12 years or older with a body mass index (BMI) of at least the 95th percentile should be prescribed one of these medications, Fox said. But pediatricians should start becoming familiar with the options and recognize that part of reducing the stigma of this disease is emphasizing that these medications are prescribed not for “weight loss” but to treat the disease of obesity, Fox said. The guidelines advise “early, intensive care” and focusing on the whole child, “using a family-centered and nonstigmatizing approach that acknowledges obesity’s biologic, social, and structural drivers.”
Offer the Full Spectrum of Care Early On
Early intervention means starting obesity treatment at diagnosis, without watchful waiting or the previously recommended staged approach. Instead of trying lifestyle therapy for 3-6 months, then considering the addition of medication, and then considering bariatric surgery, “we should be offering the full spectrum of obesity care as appropriate for that individual patient,” Fox said.
Some children with severe obesity may need the combination of lifestyle therapy and pharmacotherapy right up front, whereas another might be able to try lifestyle therapy alone for a while first. “What we know is that, for most interventions, whether it is lifestyle therapy, a medication, or bariatric surgery, early response typically predicts longer-term response,” Fox said. A study conducted by her group, for example, found that a 3% BMI reduction after 1 month with lifestyle therapy was very predictive of clinically meaningful BMI reduction at 1 year.
As with any medical treatment, physicians need to weigh the risks of the medication — short-term side effects and unknown long-term risks (or benefits) — against the risks of not treating. Because obesity is a progressive disease, “if we don’t treat it, most will develop comorbid conditions, or worsening of their already present comorbid conditions, and this does indeed lead to shortened life expectancy,” Fox said. Those who should be treated with medication are obviously those in whom the benefits outweigh the risks, Fox said, which depends on their age, their comorbidities, the severity of obesity, and the safety and efficacy of medication options.
“If I have a patient who has maybe class 2 obesity but no other comorbid conditions, I may be less inclined to start an obesity medication than a kid who has class 1 obesity and obstructive sleep apnea, for instance,” Fox said. “Some of the medications are very, very potent and effective. If you have a kid who maybe has less severe forms of obesity, perhaps they don’t need something that’s so potent.”
BMI trajectory is also a factor to consider. She said she may not be too concerned about a 16-year-old who has always been at the 95th percentile and is otherwise healthy, but the situation is different for a 16-year-old who used to be in the 25th percentile and has rapidly progressed to the 50th and then 75th percentiles in a trajectory heading straight up.
Another factor that may come into play is the patient and family preferences, though Fox noted that weight bias and stigma often interfere here. If obesity medications are brought up, the family may bring up the need for more exercise and better meal prep at home.
“They have this sense that they just need to try harder, that if they did that, the obesity would somehow get better on its own,” Fox said. “That’s an internalized bias that it’s somehow their fault, rather than realizing that this is indeed a biological disorder.”
Finally, clinicians may want to consider the child’s response to lifestyle therapy and whether they have already had bariatric surgery because these medications can be prescribed in people who did not have an adequate response to surgery.
Overview of the Medications
There are currently six obesity medications approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use in youth: Phentermine, orlistat, liraglutide, phentermine/topiramate, semaglutide, and setmelanotide.
Of these, orlistat is rarely used now because it results in the least amount of change in BMI (about a 3% loss change in BMI), has a lot of gastrointestinal side effects, often is not covered by insurance, and is expensive out of pocket. Setmelanotide is indicated only in those aged 6 years or older who have obesity because of Bardet-Biedl syndrome or one of three other rare genetic conditions: a POMC, LEPR, or PCSK1 deficiency. Fox therefore focused on the other medications besides these two.
While nearly all the currently available obesity medications are only approved in those aged 12 years or older, Fox noted that studies are ongoing at younger ages, so some of these medications may receive approval in younger populations in the future. The only one currently available for a younger age is liraglutide, which is approved down to 6 years old in children with type 2 diabetes.
“Very young kids who have very severe forms of obesity need intervention, and unfortunately, at this point, we really don’t have much to offer them,” Fox said.
Fox highlighted six key factors to consider in selecting a medication for those aged 12 years or older, though one of these, in the US healthcare system, can tend to trump all the others. Those factors are mechanism of action, side effect profile, effects on other diagnoses, patient/family preferences, provider comfort, and finally — the potentially overruling one — insurance coverage and access.
“These days, insurance coverage and access are really the No. 1 driver when I’m seeing a patient,” Fox said. “The first thing I do is look at their insurance and then also look at what kind of updates our pharmacist has given us about which medication is currently in stock.”
Each medication has different properties that should be considered with the child’s health profile. For example, topiramate is a carbonic anhydrase inhibitor so likely shouldn’t be prescribed in a child who is taking any other carbonic anhydrase inhibitor. Fox said she probably wouldn’t prescribe phentermine in a child with severe anxiety because it might enhance the anxiety effect. But if a child has migraines, she may be more inclined to try phentermine/topiramate first because the topiramate may help with the migraines. Similarly, if a child has type 2 diabetes or prediabetes, she may lean toward one of the glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) agonist drugs.
Liraglutide and Semaglutide
Liraglutide and semaglutide are both GLP-1 receptor agonists administered subcutaneously to reduce appetite, increase satiety, slow gastric emptying, and reduce the food reward response in the brain. Liraglutide can result in up to 4.5%-5% change in BMI, and semaglutide, the most potent of all the medications, can result in up to a 17% change in BMI.
Liraglutide and semaglutide are both approved for patients aged 12 years or older who weigh at least 60 kg and have a BMI of at least the 95th percentile. Liraglutide is also approved for those aged 10 years or older with type 2 diabetes. Both are contraindicated in those with a family history of medullary thyroid cancer or multiple endocrine neoplasia II. The risks to watch for include pancreatitis and gallbladder disease. Also keep in mind if you have a patient with type 1 diabetes and insulin resistance; prescribing a GLP-1 agonist is appropriate, but their insulin needs will decrease, necessitating close monitoring of their blood glucose, Fox noted.
These GLP-1 medications can be considered for those who have insurance coverage for them, who have diabetes or prediabetes, who are comfortable with daily (liraglutide) or weekly (semaglutide) injections, who have food cravings, and who have poor satiety or satiation. Without insurance, these medications are very expensive.
The most common side effects include injection site reactions and nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, though all these usually fade and can be minimized with small portions and slower eating if needed. Less common possible side effects can include abdominal pain, constipation, headache, dizziness, fatigue, and hypoglycemia. If patients develop severe belly pain that radiates to their back, they should be assessed for pancreatitis.
It’s also important to demonstrate for patients how to do the injections, Fox said. Liraglutide dosing begins at 0.6 mg daily for a week, followed by a week at 1.2 mg, a week at 1.8 mg, a week at 2.4 mg, and then 3 mg daily. Semaglutide dosing starts at 0.25 mg weekly for 4 weeks, then going up each subsequent month as needed to 0.5 mg, then 1 mg, then 1.7 mg, and finally 2.4 mg. Though there’s no standard follow-up schedule for these medications, Fox suggested considering monthly visits for the first 3 months and then every 2-3 months to assess heart rate and blood pressure, the injection site, adherence, side effects, and the effect on BMI and eating.
“Are they getting appetite suppression, but not too much appetite suppression?” Fox said. “Just like in eating disorder treatment, we want our patients to eat regularly spaced meals. If their appetite is so suppressed that they are hardly eating anything, that’s a problem.”
Fox also offered the following additional pearls about these medications:
- Though manufacturers have struggled to keep up with demand, the shortages of these medications are improving. However, beware the compounding pharmacies filling the gap because compounded medications are not FDA approved, and quality control issues are a concern.
- Prior authorizations are usually needed, and common reasons for denial to anticipate include lack of documentation on not having contraindications, the patient not following a low-calorie diet or engaging in physical activity, and the patient not having seen a registered dietitian.
- Patients should expect gastrointestinal side effects, but ondansetron can be prescribed to lessen the intensity.
Phentermine/Topiramate
Phentermine/topiramate extended-release is a once-daily oral tablet, with the phentermine acting to reduce appetite (by simulating the release of norepinephrine) and the topiramate reducing caloric intake and food reward response (by increasing gamma-aminobutyric acid activity). It’s approved for those aged 12 years or older with a BMI of at least the 95th percentile and should be considered in those with strong hunger, low energy, binge eating disorder, or migraines, as well as those who have insurance coverage for it. It can result in up to a 10% change in BMI.
Contraindications include pregnancy, substance use, cardiovascular disease (though it’s okay in patients with controlled hypertension), hyperthyroidism, glaucoma, and monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI) use. Fox emphasized the teratogenic effects, so patients capable of pregnancy need to be on reliable birth control. The most common side effects include paresthesia, dizziness, dysgeusia, insomnia, and constipation.
A risk of topiramate is kidney stones, so patients should drink a lot of water, especially in hot weather, Fox said. Other risks can include metabolic acidosis, suicidality, poor cognitive function, high blood pressure, and renal impairment.
“If your patient is struggling academically, I might use this medication a bit more cautiously, particularly when the dose gets above 100 mg a day,” Fox said. “That’s when the cognitive effects tend to emerge more strongly.”
Patients with congenital heart disease should meet with their cardiologist before starting this medication, and although patients taking selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) can take this, there is a potential increased risk for serotonin syndrome because phentermine has a little bit of serotonergic activity, she said.
Before prescribing, do an exam to ensure the patient doesn’t have a heart murmur, isn’t hypertensive, isn’t pregnant, has normal kidney function, and has bicarbonate in a reasonable range. Dosing begins with a daily 3.75/23-mg capsule for 2 weeks, followed by 2 weeks at 7.5 mg/46 mg. As with the GLP-1 drugs, Fox advises considering monthly follow-ups for the first 3 months and then visits every 2-3 months. Each visit should include the assessment of cardiovascular health, heart rate, blood pressure, side effects, pregnancy risk, and the medication’s effect on BMI and eating. If the patient is tolerating a dose of 7.5 mg/46 mg, it can be increased to 11.25 mg/69 mg for 2 weeks and then to 15 mg/92 mg. Bicarbonate and creatinine should be checked every 6-12 months; if bicarbonate < 18 mEq/L, the dose should be reduced and then bicarbonate should be checked again a month later.
Fox noted that this drug is expected to go off patent in late 2024 or in 2025, which will substantially reduce the cost. It’s also possible to prescribe phentermine and topiramate separately, which may reduce costs or help with insurance coverage and can allow for evening dosing of topiramate.
Phentermine
Phentermine alone is only approved for those older than 16 years who have a BMI of at least 30, or at least 27 with weight-related comorbidities, and it’s not approved for use longer than 12 weeks. It results in a BMI change of up to 5%. It should be considered in those with strong hunger and low energy and in those who don’t have adequate insurance coverage because out-of-pocket costs can be as little as $5/mo.
Contraindications are the same as those for the combined pill above: Substance use, cardiovascular disease, hyperthyroidism, glaucoma, MAOI use, and agitation. Again, take caution with patients who have hypertension, have congenital heart disease, or take SSRIs or insulin.
Side effects can include palpitations, tachycardia, dry mouth, headache, insomnia, and anxiety. The dose starts at 15 mg daily, and Fox advises following a similar follow-up as with the other medications, at which clinicians should assess BMI, the medication’s effect on eating, cardiovascular health, and side effects and have a discussion about off-label use. Off-label use refers to prescriptions lasting longer than 12 weeks, but it’s arguably safer than attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder stimulants because of the lower addiction potential, Fox said.
What Else to Know
Because obesity is a chronic disease, treatment will be ongoing, Fox noted. A lot of people will ask when or where the “off-ramp” for these medications is, but many people will need these medications long term just as someone with other chronic diseases requires lifetime pharmacotherapy. The treatment intensity will vary based on disease severity and individual characteristics, Fox said.
For those feeling overwhelmed by the options, Fox advises clinicians to start by picking one medication to learn and then spending the time to read the FDA package insert in full. Get samples and then closely follow patients to learn that medication well before moving on to learn another. She also noted the opportunity for pediatricians to see a pediatric obesity medicine fellowship.
No external funding was used for the presentation. Fox is a site principal investigator for clinical trials sponsored by Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly. Ivers had no disclosures.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
FROM AAP 2024
AI in Medicine: Are Large Language Models Ready for the Exam Room?
In seconds, Ravi Parikh, MD, an oncologist at the Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta, had a summary of his patient’s entire medical history. Normally, Parikh skimmed the cumbersome files before seeing a patient. However, the artificial intelligence (AI) tool his institution was testing could list the highlights he needed in a fraction of the time.
“On the whole, I like it ... it saves me time,” Parikh said of the tool. “But I’d be lying if I told you it was perfect all the time. It’s interpreting the [patient] history in some ways that may be inaccurate,” he said.
Within the first week of testing the tool, Parikh started to notice that the large language model (LLM) made a particular mistake in his patients with prostate cancer. If their prostate-specific antigen test results came back slightly elevated — which is part of normal variation — the LLM recorded it as disease progression. Because Parikh reviews all his notes — with or without using an AI tool — after a visit, he easily caught the mistake before it was added to the chart. “The problem, I think, is if these mistakes go under the hood,” he said.
In the data science world, these mistakes are called hallucinations. And a growing body of research suggests they’re happening more frequently than is safe for healthcare. The industry promised LLMs would alleviate administrative burden and reduce physician burnout. But so far, studies show these AI-tool mistakes often create more work for doctors, not less. To truly help physicians and be safe for patients, some experts say healthcare needs to build its own LLMs from the ground up. And all agree that the field desperately needs a way to vet these algorithms more thoroughly.
Prone to Error
Right now, “I think the industry is focused on taking existing LLMs and forcing them into usage for healthcare,” said Nigam H. Shah, MBBS, PhD, chief data scientist for Stanford Health. However, the value of deploying general LLMs in the healthcare space is questionable. “People are starting to wonder if we’re using these tools wrong,” he told this news organization.
In 2023, Shah and his colleagues evaluated seven LLMs on their ability to answer electronic health record–based questions. For realistic tasks, the error rate in the best cases was about 35%, he said. “To me, that rate seems a bit high ... to adopt for routine use.”
A study earlier this year by the UC San Diego School of Medicine showed that using LLMs to respond to patient messages increased the time doctors spent on messages. And this summer, a study by the clinical AI firm Mendel found that when GPT-4o or Llama-3 were used to summarize patient medical records, almost every summary contained at least one type of hallucination.
“We’ve seen cases where a patient does have drug allergies, but the system says ‘no known drug allergies’ ” in the medical history summary, said Wael Salloum, PhD, cofounder and chief science officer at Mendel. “That’s a serious hallucination.” And if physicians have to constantly verify what the system is telling them, that “defeats the purpose [of summarization],” he said.
A Higher Quality Diet
Part of the trouble with LLMs is that there’s just not enough high-quality information to feed them. The algorithms are insatiable, requiring vast swaths of data for training. GPT-3.5, for instance, was trained on 570 GB of data from the internet, more than 300 billion words. And to train GPT-4o, OpenAI reportedly transcribed more than 1 million hours of YouTube content.
However, the strategies that built these general LLMs don’t always translate well to healthcare. The internet is full of low-quality or misleading health information from wellness sites and supplement advertisements. And even data that are trustworthy, like the millions of clinical studies and the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) statements, can be outdated, Salloum said. And “an LLM in training can’t distinguish good from bad,” he added.
The good news is that clinicians don’t rely on controversial information in the real world. Medical knowledge is standardized. “Healthcare is a domain rich with explicit knowledge,” Salloum said. So there’s potential to build a more reliable LLM that is guided by robust medical standards and guidelines.
It’s possible that healthcare could use small language models, which are LLM’s pocket-sized cousins, and perform tasks needing only bite-sized datasets requiring fewer resources and easier fine-tuning, according to Microsoft’s website. Shah said training these smaller models on real medical data might be an option, like an LLM meant to respond to patient messages that could be trained with real messages sent by physicians.
Several groups are already working on databases of standardized human medical knowledge or real physician responses. “Perhaps that will work better than using LLMs trained on the general internet. Those studies need to be done,” Shah said.
Jon Tamir, assistant professor of electrical and computer engineering and co-lead of the AI Health Lab at The University of Texas at Austin, said, “The community has recognized that we are entering a new era of AI where the dataset itself is the most important aspect. We need training sets that are highly curated and highly specialized.
“If the dataset is highly specialized, it will definitely help reduce hallucinations,” he said.
Cutting Overconfidence
A major problem with LLM mistakes is that they are often hard to detect. Hallucinations can be highly convincing even if they’re highly inaccurate, according to Tamir.
When Shah, for instance, was recently testing an LLM on de-identified patient data, he asked the LLM which blood test the patient last had. The model responded with “complete blood count [CBC].” But when he asked for the results, the model gave him white blood count and other values. “Turns out that record did not have a CBC done at all! The result was entirely made up,” he said.
Making healthcare LLMs safer and more reliable will mean training AI to acknowledge potential mistakes and uncertainty. Existing LLMs are trained to project confidence and produce a lot of answers, even when there isn’t one, Salloum said. They rarely respond with “I don’t know” even when their prediction has low confidence, he added.
Healthcare stands to benefit from a system that highlights uncertainty and potential errors. For instance, if a patient’s history shows they have smoked, stopped smoking, vaped, and started smoking again. The LLM might call them a smoker but flag the comment as uncertain because the chronology is complicated, Salloum said.
Tamir added that this strategy could improve LLM and doctor collaboration by honing in on where human expertise is needed most.
Too Little Evaluation
For any improvement strategy to work, LLMs — and all AI-assisted healthcare tools — first need a better evaluation framework. So far, LLMs have “been used in really exciting ways but not really well-vetted ways,” Tamir said.
While some AI-assisted tools, particularly in medical imaging, have undergone rigorous FDA evaluations and earned approval, most haven’t. And because the FDA only regulates algorithms that are considered medical devices, Parikh said that most LLMs used for administrative tasks and efficiency don’t fall under the regulatory agency’s purview.
But these algorithms still have access to patient information and can directly influence patient and doctor decisions. Third-party regulatory agencies are expected to emerge, but it’s still unclear who those will be. Before developers can build a safer and more efficient LLM for healthcare, they’ll need better guidelines and guardrails. “Unless we figure out evaluation, how would we know whether the healthcare-appropriate large language models are better or worse?” Shah asked.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
In seconds, Ravi Parikh, MD, an oncologist at the Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta, had a summary of his patient’s entire medical history. Normally, Parikh skimmed the cumbersome files before seeing a patient. However, the artificial intelligence (AI) tool his institution was testing could list the highlights he needed in a fraction of the time.
“On the whole, I like it ... it saves me time,” Parikh said of the tool. “But I’d be lying if I told you it was perfect all the time. It’s interpreting the [patient] history in some ways that may be inaccurate,” he said.
Within the first week of testing the tool, Parikh started to notice that the large language model (LLM) made a particular mistake in his patients with prostate cancer. If their prostate-specific antigen test results came back slightly elevated — which is part of normal variation — the LLM recorded it as disease progression. Because Parikh reviews all his notes — with or without using an AI tool — after a visit, he easily caught the mistake before it was added to the chart. “The problem, I think, is if these mistakes go under the hood,” he said.
In the data science world, these mistakes are called hallucinations. And a growing body of research suggests they’re happening more frequently than is safe for healthcare. The industry promised LLMs would alleviate administrative burden and reduce physician burnout. But so far, studies show these AI-tool mistakes often create more work for doctors, not less. To truly help physicians and be safe for patients, some experts say healthcare needs to build its own LLMs from the ground up. And all agree that the field desperately needs a way to vet these algorithms more thoroughly.
Prone to Error
Right now, “I think the industry is focused on taking existing LLMs and forcing them into usage for healthcare,” said Nigam H. Shah, MBBS, PhD, chief data scientist for Stanford Health. However, the value of deploying general LLMs in the healthcare space is questionable. “People are starting to wonder if we’re using these tools wrong,” he told this news organization.
In 2023, Shah and his colleagues evaluated seven LLMs on their ability to answer electronic health record–based questions. For realistic tasks, the error rate in the best cases was about 35%, he said. “To me, that rate seems a bit high ... to adopt for routine use.”
A study earlier this year by the UC San Diego School of Medicine showed that using LLMs to respond to patient messages increased the time doctors spent on messages. And this summer, a study by the clinical AI firm Mendel found that when GPT-4o or Llama-3 were used to summarize patient medical records, almost every summary contained at least one type of hallucination.
“We’ve seen cases where a patient does have drug allergies, but the system says ‘no known drug allergies’ ” in the medical history summary, said Wael Salloum, PhD, cofounder and chief science officer at Mendel. “That’s a serious hallucination.” And if physicians have to constantly verify what the system is telling them, that “defeats the purpose [of summarization],” he said.
A Higher Quality Diet
Part of the trouble with LLMs is that there’s just not enough high-quality information to feed them. The algorithms are insatiable, requiring vast swaths of data for training. GPT-3.5, for instance, was trained on 570 GB of data from the internet, more than 300 billion words. And to train GPT-4o, OpenAI reportedly transcribed more than 1 million hours of YouTube content.
However, the strategies that built these general LLMs don’t always translate well to healthcare. The internet is full of low-quality or misleading health information from wellness sites and supplement advertisements. And even data that are trustworthy, like the millions of clinical studies and the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) statements, can be outdated, Salloum said. And “an LLM in training can’t distinguish good from bad,” he added.
The good news is that clinicians don’t rely on controversial information in the real world. Medical knowledge is standardized. “Healthcare is a domain rich with explicit knowledge,” Salloum said. So there’s potential to build a more reliable LLM that is guided by robust medical standards and guidelines.
It’s possible that healthcare could use small language models, which are LLM’s pocket-sized cousins, and perform tasks needing only bite-sized datasets requiring fewer resources and easier fine-tuning, according to Microsoft’s website. Shah said training these smaller models on real medical data might be an option, like an LLM meant to respond to patient messages that could be trained with real messages sent by physicians.
Several groups are already working on databases of standardized human medical knowledge or real physician responses. “Perhaps that will work better than using LLMs trained on the general internet. Those studies need to be done,” Shah said.
Jon Tamir, assistant professor of electrical and computer engineering and co-lead of the AI Health Lab at The University of Texas at Austin, said, “The community has recognized that we are entering a new era of AI where the dataset itself is the most important aspect. We need training sets that are highly curated and highly specialized.
“If the dataset is highly specialized, it will definitely help reduce hallucinations,” he said.
Cutting Overconfidence
A major problem with LLM mistakes is that they are often hard to detect. Hallucinations can be highly convincing even if they’re highly inaccurate, according to Tamir.
When Shah, for instance, was recently testing an LLM on de-identified patient data, he asked the LLM which blood test the patient last had. The model responded with “complete blood count [CBC].” But when he asked for the results, the model gave him white blood count and other values. “Turns out that record did not have a CBC done at all! The result was entirely made up,” he said.
Making healthcare LLMs safer and more reliable will mean training AI to acknowledge potential mistakes and uncertainty. Existing LLMs are trained to project confidence and produce a lot of answers, even when there isn’t one, Salloum said. They rarely respond with “I don’t know” even when their prediction has low confidence, he added.
Healthcare stands to benefit from a system that highlights uncertainty and potential errors. For instance, if a patient’s history shows they have smoked, stopped smoking, vaped, and started smoking again. The LLM might call them a smoker but flag the comment as uncertain because the chronology is complicated, Salloum said.
Tamir added that this strategy could improve LLM and doctor collaboration by honing in on where human expertise is needed most.
Too Little Evaluation
For any improvement strategy to work, LLMs — and all AI-assisted healthcare tools — first need a better evaluation framework. So far, LLMs have “been used in really exciting ways but not really well-vetted ways,” Tamir said.
While some AI-assisted tools, particularly in medical imaging, have undergone rigorous FDA evaluations and earned approval, most haven’t. And because the FDA only regulates algorithms that are considered medical devices, Parikh said that most LLMs used for administrative tasks and efficiency don’t fall under the regulatory agency’s purview.
But these algorithms still have access to patient information and can directly influence patient and doctor decisions. Third-party regulatory agencies are expected to emerge, but it’s still unclear who those will be. Before developers can build a safer and more efficient LLM for healthcare, they’ll need better guidelines and guardrails. “Unless we figure out evaluation, how would we know whether the healthcare-appropriate large language models are better or worse?” Shah asked.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
In seconds, Ravi Parikh, MD, an oncologist at the Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta, had a summary of his patient’s entire medical history. Normally, Parikh skimmed the cumbersome files before seeing a patient. However, the artificial intelligence (AI) tool his institution was testing could list the highlights he needed in a fraction of the time.
“On the whole, I like it ... it saves me time,” Parikh said of the tool. “But I’d be lying if I told you it was perfect all the time. It’s interpreting the [patient] history in some ways that may be inaccurate,” he said.
Within the first week of testing the tool, Parikh started to notice that the large language model (LLM) made a particular mistake in his patients with prostate cancer. If their prostate-specific antigen test results came back slightly elevated — which is part of normal variation — the LLM recorded it as disease progression. Because Parikh reviews all his notes — with or without using an AI tool — after a visit, he easily caught the mistake before it was added to the chart. “The problem, I think, is if these mistakes go under the hood,” he said.
In the data science world, these mistakes are called hallucinations. And a growing body of research suggests they’re happening more frequently than is safe for healthcare. The industry promised LLMs would alleviate administrative burden and reduce physician burnout. But so far, studies show these AI-tool mistakes often create more work for doctors, not less. To truly help physicians and be safe for patients, some experts say healthcare needs to build its own LLMs from the ground up. And all agree that the field desperately needs a way to vet these algorithms more thoroughly.
Prone to Error
Right now, “I think the industry is focused on taking existing LLMs and forcing them into usage for healthcare,” said Nigam H. Shah, MBBS, PhD, chief data scientist for Stanford Health. However, the value of deploying general LLMs in the healthcare space is questionable. “People are starting to wonder if we’re using these tools wrong,” he told this news organization.
In 2023, Shah and his colleagues evaluated seven LLMs on their ability to answer electronic health record–based questions. For realistic tasks, the error rate in the best cases was about 35%, he said. “To me, that rate seems a bit high ... to adopt for routine use.”
A study earlier this year by the UC San Diego School of Medicine showed that using LLMs to respond to patient messages increased the time doctors spent on messages. And this summer, a study by the clinical AI firm Mendel found that when GPT-4o or Llama-3 were used to summarize patient medical records, almost every summary contained at least one type of hallucination.
“We’ve seen cases where a patient does have drug allergies, but the system says ‘no known drug allergies’ ” in the medical history summary, said Wael Salloum, PhD, cofounder and chief science officer at Mendel. “That’s a serious hallucination.” And if physicians have to constantly verify what the system is telling them, that “defeats the purpose [of summarization],” he said.
A Higher Quality Diet
Part of the trouble with LLMs is that there’s just not enough high-quality information to feed them. The algorithms are insatiable, requiring vast swaths of data for training. GPT-3.5, for instance, was trained on 570 GB of data from the internet, more than 300 billion words. And to train GPT-4o, OpenAI reportedly transcribed more than 1 million hours of YouTube content.
However, the strategies that built these general LLMs don’t always translate well to healthcare. The internet is full of low-quality or misleading health information from wellness sites and supplement advertisements. And even data that are trustworthy, like the millions of clinical studies and the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) statements, can be outdated, Salloum said. And “an LLM in training can’t distinguish good from bad,” he added.
The good news is that clinicians don’t rely on controversial information in the real world. Medical knowledge is standardized. “Healthcare is a domain rich with explicit knowledge,” Salloum said. So there’s potential to build a more reliable LLM that is guided by robust medical standards and guidelines.
It’s possible that healthcare could use small language models, which are LLM’s pocket-sized cousins, and perform tasks needing only bite-sized datasets requiring fewer resources and easier fine-tuning, according to Microsoft’s website. Shah said training these smaller models on real medical data might be an option, like an LLM meant to respond to patient messages that could be trained with real messages sent by physicians.
Several groups are already working on databases of standardized human medical knowledge or real physician responses. “Perhaps that will work better than using LLMs trained on the general internet. Those studies need to be done,” Shah said.
Jon Tamir, assistant professor of electrical and computer engineering and co-lead of the AI Health Lab at The University of Texas at Austin, said, “The community has recognized that we are entering a new era of AI where the dataset itself is the most important aspect. We need training sets that are highly curated and highly specialized.
“If the dataset is highly specialized, it will definitely help reduce hallucinations,” he said.
Cutting Overconfidence
A major problem with LLM mistakes is that they are often hard to detect. Hallucinations can be highly convincing even if they’re highly inaccurate, according to Tamir.
When Shah, for instance, was recently testing an LLM on de-identified patient data, he asked the LLM which blood test the patient last had. The model responded with “complete blood count [CBC].” But when he asked for the results, the model gave him white blood count and other values. “Turns out that record did not have a CBC done at all! The result was entirely made up,” he said.
Making healthcare LLMs safer and more reliable will mean training AI to acknowledge potential mistakes and uncertainty. Existing LLMs are trained to project confidence and produce a lot of answers, even when there isn’t one, Salloum said. They rarely respond with “I don’t know” even when their prediction has low confidence, he added.
Healthcare stands to benefit from a system that highlights uncertainty and potential errors. For instance, if a patient’s history shows they have smoked, stopped smoking, vaped, and started smoking again. The LLM might call them a smoker but flag the comment as uncertain because the chronology is complicated, Salloum said.
Tamir added that this strategy could improve LLM and doctor collaboration by honing in on where human expertise is needed most.
Too Little Evaluation
For any improvement strategy to work, LLMs — and all AI-assisted healthcare tools — first need a better evaluation framework. So far, LLMs have “been used in really exciting ways but not really well-vetted ways,” Tamir said.
While some AI-assisted tools, particularly in medical imaging, have undergone rigorous FDA evaluations and earned approval, most haven’t. And because the FDA only regulates algorithms that are considered medical devices, Parikh said that most LLMs used for administrative tasks and efficiency don’t fall under the regulatory agency’s purview.
But these algorithms still have access to patient information and can directly influence patient and doctor decisions. Third-party regulatory agencies are expected to emerge, but it’s still unclear who those will be. Before developers can build a safer and more efficient LLM for healthcare, they’ll need better guidelines and guardrails. “Unless we figure out evaluation, how would we know whether the healthcare-appropriate large language models are better or worse?” Shah asked.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
Just Call It ‘Chronic Rhinitis’ and Reach for These Treatments
This transcript has been edited for clarity.
Matthew F. Watto, MD: I’m here with my great friend and America’s primary care physician, Dr. Paul Nelson Williams. Paul, are you ready to talk about rhinitis?
Paul N. Williams, MD: I’m excited. It’s always the season to talk about rhinitis.
Watto: We had a great guest for this podcast, Rhinitis and Environmental Allergies with Dr. Olajumoke Fadugba from Penn Medicine. She’s an allergist and immunologist. One of her pet peeves is when people just call everything “allergic rhinitis” because we should be calling it “chronic rhinitis,” if it’s chronic. That’s an umbrella term, and there are many buckets underneath it that people could fall into.
When you’re taking a history, you have to figure out whether it’s perennial (meaning it happens year round) because certain things can cause that. Cat dander is around all the time, so people with cats might have sinus symptoms all year. Dust mites are another one, and it’s pretty hard to avoid those. Those are some perennial allergens.
Then there is allergic vs nonallergic rhinitis, which is something I hadn’t really put too much thought into.
Williams: I didn’t realize exactly how nuanced it got. Nonallergic rhinitis can still be seasonal because changes in temperature and humidity can trigger the rhinitis. And it matters what medications you use for what.
Watto: Here are some ways you can try to figure out if rhinitis is allergic or nonallergic. Ask the patient if they have itchy eyes and are sneezing a lot. That can be more of an allergic rhinitis, but both allergic and nonallergic rhinitis have the congestion, the rhinorrhea, so you can’t figure it out based on that alone.
Dr. Fadugba said that one clue that it might be nonallergic rhinitis is the age of onset. If the symptoms are later in onset (older age), then 30%-40% of rhinitis is nonallergic. If the patient has never had allergies and now all of a sudden they have new chronic sinus symptoms, it’s probably nonallergic rhinitis. It’s a diagnosis of exclusion.
I guess they need allergy testing?
Williams: If you want to make a definitive diagnosis, you need to rule it out. I suspect that you might be able to get away with some empirical treatment. If they get better, you can feel like a winner because getting booked in for allergy testing can be a little bit of a challenge.
Watto: The main treatment difference is that the oral antihistamines do not really seem to work for nonallergic rhinitis, but they can help with allergic rhinitis. Weirdly, the nasal antihistamines and nasal steroids do seem to work for both allergic and nonallergic rhinitis.
I don’t understand the mechanism there, but if you think someone might have nonallergic rhinitis, I wouldn’t go with the oral antihistamines as your first-line treatment. I would go with a nasal spray; you pretty much can’t go wrong with either an antihistamine or a steroid nasal spray.
Williams: We typically start with the nasal sprays. That’s kind of first-line for almost everybody, allergic or nonallergic. You’re probably going to start with an intranasal steroid, and then it’s kind of dealer’s choice what the patient can tolerate and afford. Sometimes you can get them covered by insurance, at least in my experience.
I will say that this is one of the medications — like nicotine patches and other things — where we as doctors don’t really counsel patients on how to use it appropriately. So with our expert, we revisited the idea of the patient pointing the nasal spray laterally, toward their ear basically, and not spraying toward their brain. There should not be a slurping sound afterward, because “if you taste it, you waste it,” as the allergists and immunologists say. It’s supposed to sit up there and not be swallowed immediately.
If your patient is sensitive to the floral flavor of some of the fluticasones (which I don’t mind so much as a user myself), then you can try mometasone or the other formulations. They are all roughly equivalent.
Speaking of medications, which medications can cause rhinitis? Any meds we commonly use in primary care?
Williams: Apparently the combined hormonal oral contraceptives can do it. Also the phosphodiesterase 5 (PDE-5) inhibitors. Drugs that cause vasodilation can also do it. Some of the antihypertensives. I’ve seen beta-blockers and angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors listed specifically, and some of the medications for benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). So there are a couple of medications that you can think about as a potential cause of rhinitis, although my suspicion is not going to be as high as for some of the other causes.
Watto: We mentioned medication treatments for patients who are really bothered by rhinorrhea, and maybe they are already on a steroid or an antihistamine.
You can try nasal ipratropium for people that have really prominent rhinorrhea. Dr. Fadugba said that can work well, and it’s usually taken three or four times a day. I’ve had good success prescribing it for my patients. Another one that I have never prescribed, but that Dr. Fadugba said is available over the counter, is intranasal cromolyn — a mast cell stabilizer. She said it can be beneficial.
Let’s say I had a cat allergy and I was going to visit Paul. I could use the intranasal cromolyn ahead of time to reduce rhinitis when I’m around the cats.
Paul, what about montelukast? I never know what to do with that one.
Williams: I’ve seen it prescribed as a last-ditch attempt to fix chronic rhinitis. Dr. Fadugba said she only ever prescribes it for patients who have rhinitis symptoms and asthma and never just for chronic rhinitis because it doesn’t work. And also, there have been some new black-box warnings from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). So unless there’s a solid indication for it, montelukast is not something you should just prescribe to try to see if it will work. That’s probably not the right approach for this.
But if the patient has challenging control asthma, and as a component, challenging nasal symptoms as well, it might be a reasonable medication to try.
Watto: And finally, Paul, how does climate change possibly have anything to do with rhinitis?
Williams: I feel like I’m just seeing more and more of the stuff every year. I don’t know if I’m more sensitive to it or because I’m having more symptoms myself, but it turns out the prevalence actually is going up.
We’re seeing more of it in part because it’s getting hotter outside, which is in turn worsening the production of allergens and increasing the allergen exposure and the severity of the symptoms that go along with it. More people are having more severe disease because the world is changing as a result of the stuff that we do. So fix that. But also be mindful and expect to see even more of these problems as you move forward in your careers.
Watto: Dr. Fadugba gave us so many great tips. You can listen to the full podcast episode here.
Dr. Watto, Clinical Assistant Professor, Department of Medicine, Perelman School of Medicine at University of Pennsylvania; Internist, Department of Medicine, Hospital Medicine Section, Pennsylvania Hospital, Philadelphia, has disclosed no relevant financial relationships. Dr. Williams, Associate Professor of Clinical Medicine, Department of General Internal Medicine, Lewis Katz School of Medicine; Staff Physician, Department of General Internal Medicine, Temple Internal Medicine Associates, Philadelphia, disclosed ties with The Curbsiders.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
This transcript has been edited for clarity.
Matthew F. Watto, MD: I’m here with my great friend and America’s primary care physician, Dr. Paul Nelson Williams. Paul, are you ready to talk about rhinitis?
Paul N. Williams, MD: I’m excited. It’s always the season to talk about rhinitis.
Watto: We had a great guest for this podcast, Rhinitis and Environmental Allergies with Dr. Olajumoke Fadugba from Penn Medicine. She’s an allergist and immunologist. One of her pet peeves is when people just call everything “allergic rhinitis” because we should be calling it “chronic rhinitis,” if it’s chronic. That’s an umbrella term, and there are many buckets underneath it that people could fall into.
When you’re taking a history, you have to figure out whether it’s perennial (meaning it happens year round) because certain things can cause that. Cat dander is around all the time, so people with cats might have sinus symptoms all year. Dust mites are another one, and it’s pretty hard to avoid those. Those are some perennial allergens.
Then there is allergic vs nonallergic rhinitis, which is something I hadn’t really put too much thought into.
Williams: I didn’t realize exactly how nuanced it got. Nonallergic rhinitis can still be seasonal because changes in temperature and humidity can trigger the rhinitis. And it matters what medications you use for what.
Watto: Here are some ways you can try to figure out if rhinitis is allergic or nonallergic. Ask the patient if they have itchy eyes and are sneezing a lot. That can be more of an allergic rhinitis, but both allergic and nonallergic rhinitis have the congestion, the rhinorrhea, so you can’t figure it out based on that alone.
Dr. Fadugba said that one clue that it might be nonallergic rhinitis is the age of onset. If the symptoms are later in onset (older age), then 30%-40% of rhinitis is nonallergic. If the patient has never had allergies and now all of a sudden they have new chronic sinus symptoms, it’s probably nonallergic rhinitis. It’s a diagnosis of exclusion.
I guess they need allergy testing?
Williams: If you want to make a definitive diagnosis, you need to rule it out. I suspect that you might be able to get away with some empirical treatment. If they get better, you can feel like a winner because getting booked in for allergy testing can be a little bit of a challenge.
Watto: The main treatment difference is that the oral antihistamines do not really seem to work for nonallergic rhinitis, but they can help with allergic rhinitis. Weirdly, the nasal antihistamines and nasal steroids do seem to work for both allergic and nonallergic rhinitis.
I don’t understand the mechanism there, but if you think someone might have nonallergic rhinitis, I wouldn’t go with the oral antihistamines as your first-line treatment. I would go with a nasal spray; you pretty much can’t go wrong with either an antihistamine or a steroid nasal spray.
Williams: We typically start with the nasal sprays. That’s kind of first-line for almost everybody, allergic or nonallergic. You’re probably going to start with an intranasal steroid, and then it’s kind of dealer’s choice what the patient can tolerate and afford. Sometimes you can get them covered by insurance, at least in my experience.
I will say that this is one of the medications — like nicotine patches and other things — where we as doctors don’t really counsel patients on how to use it appropriately. So with our expert, we revisited the idea of the patient pointing the nasal spray laterally, toward their ear basically, and not spraying toward their brain. There should not be a slurping sound afterward, because “if you taste it, you waste it,” as the allergists and immunologists say. It’s supposed to sit up there and not be swallowed immediately.
If your patient is sensitive to the floral flavor of some of the fluticasones (which I don’t mind so much as a user myself), then you can try mometasone or the other formulations. They are all roughly equivalent.
Speaking of medications, which medications can cause rhinitis? Any meds we commonly use in primary care?
Williams: Apparently the combined hormonal oral contraceptives can do it. Also the phosphodiesterase 5 (PDE-5) inhibitors. Drugs that cause vasodilation can also do it. Some of the antihypertensives. I’ve seen beta-blockers and angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors listed specifically, and some of the medications for benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). So there are a couple of medications that you can think about as a potential cause of rhinitis, although my suspicion is not going to be as high as for some of the other causes.
Watto: We mentioned medication treatments for patients who are really bothered by rhinorrhea, and maybe they are already on a steroid or an antihistamine.
You can try nasal ipratropium for people that have really prominent rhinorrhea. Dr. Fadugba said that can work well, and it’s usually taken three or four times a day. I’ve had good success prescribing it for my patients. Another one that I have never prescribed, but that Dr. Fadugba said is available over the counter, is intranasal cromolyn — a mast cell stabilizer. She said it can be beneficial.
Let’s say I had a cat allergy and I was going to visit Paul. I could use the intranasal cromolyn ahead of time to reduce rhinitis when I’m around the cats.
Paul, what about montelukast? I never know what to do with that one.
Williams: I’ve seen it prescribed as a last-ditch attempt to fix chronic rhinitis. Dr. Fadugba said she only ever prescribes it for patients who have rhinitis symptoms and asthma and never just for chronic rhinitis because it doesn’t work. And also, there have been some new black-box warnings from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). So unless there’s a solid indication for it, montelukast is not something you should just prescribe to try to see if it will work. That’s probably not the right approach for this.
But if the patient has challenging control asthma, and as a component, challenging nasal symptoms as well, it might be a reasonable medication to try.
Watto: And finally, Paul, how does climate change possibly have anything to do with rhinitis?
Williams: I feel like I’m just seeing more and more of the stuff every year. I don’t know if I’m more sensitive to it or because I’m having more symptoms myself, but it turns out the prevalence actually is going up.
We’re seeing more of it in part because it’s getting hotter outside, which is in turn worsening the production of allergens and increasing the allergen exposure and the severity of the symptoms that go along with it. More people are having more severe disease because the world is changing as a result of the stuff that we do. So fix that. But also be mindful and expect to see even more of these problems as you move forward in your careers.
Watto: Dr. Fadugba gave us so many great tips. You can listen to the full podcast episode here.
Dr. Watto, Clinical Assistant Professor, Department of Medicine, Perelman School of Medicine at University of Pennsylvania; Internist, Department of Medicine, Hospital Medicine Section, Pennsylvania Hospital, Philadelphia, has disclosed no relevant financial relationships. Dr. Williams, Associate Professor of Clinical Medicine, Department of General Internal Medicine, Lewis Katz School of Medicine; Staff Physician, Department of General Internal Medicine, Temple Internal Medicine Associates, Philadelphia, disclosed ties with The Curbsiders.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
This transcript has been edited for clarity.
Matthew F. Watto, MD: I’m here with my great friend and America’s primary care physician, Dr. Paul Nelson Williams. Paul, are you ready to talk about rhinitis?
Paul N. Williams, MD: I’m excited. It’s always the season to talk about rhinitis.
Watto: We had a great guest for this podcast, Rhinitis and Environmental Allergies with Dr. Olajumoke Fadugba from Penn Medicine. She’s an allergist and immunologist. One of her pet peeves is when people just call everything “allergic rhinitis” because we should be calling it “chronic rhinitis,” if it’s chronic. That’s an umbrella term, and there are many buckets underneath it that people could fall into.
When you’re taking a history, you have to figure out whether it’s perennial (meaning it happens year round) because certain things can cause that. Cat dander is around all the time, so people with cats might have sinus symptoms all year. Dust mites are another one, and it’s pretty hard to avoid those. Those are some perennial allergens.
Then there is allergic vs nonallergic rhinitis, which is something I hadn’t really put too much thought into.
Williams: I didn’t realize exactly how nuanced it got. Nonallergic rhinitis can still be seasonal because changes in temperature and humidity can trigger the rhinitis. And it matters what medications you use for what.
Watto: Here are some ways you can try to figure out if rhinitis is allergic or nonallergic. Ask the patient if they have itchy eyes and are sneezing a lot. That can be more of an allergic rhinitis, but both allergic and nonallergic rhinitis have the congestion, the rhinorrhea, so you can’t figure it out based on that alone.
Dr. Fadugba said that one clue that it might be nonallergic rhinitis is the age of onset. If the symptoms are later in onset (older age), then 30%-40% of rhinitis is nonallergic. If the patient has never had allergies and now all of a sudden they have new chronic sinus symptoms, it’s probably nonallergic rhinitis. It’s a diagnosis of exclusion.
I guess they need allergy testing?
Williams: If you want to make a definitive diagnosis, you need to rule it out. I suspect that you might be able to get away with some empirical treatment. If they get better, you can feel like a winner because getting booked in for allergy testing can be a little bit of a challenge.
Watto: The main treatment difference is that the oral antihistamines do not really seem to work for nonallergic rhinitis, but they can help with allergic rhinitis. Weirdly, the nasal antihistamines and nasal steroids do seem to work for both allergic and nonallergic rhinitis.
I don’t understand the mechanism there, but if you think someone might have nonallergic rhinitis, I wouldn’t go with the oral antihistamines as your first-line treatment. I would go with a nasal spray; you pretty much can’t go wrong with either an antihistamine or a steroid nasal spray.
Williams: We typically start with the nasal sprays. That’s kind of first-line for almost everybody, allergic or nonallergic. You’re probably going to start with an intranasal steroid, and then it’s kind of dealer’s choice what the patient can tolerate and afford. Sometimes you can get them covered by insurance, at least in my experience.
I will say that this is one of the medications — like nicotine patches and other things — where we as doctors don’t really counsel patients on how to use it appropriately. So with our expert, we revisited the idea of the patient pointing the nasal spray laterally, toward their ear basically, and not spraying toward their brain. There should not be a slurping sound afterward, because “if you taste it, you waste it,” as the allergists and immunologists say. It’s supposed to sit up there and not be swallowed immediately.
If your patient is sensitive to the floral flavor of some of the fluticasones (which I don’t mind so much as a user myself), then you can try mometasone or the other formulations. They are all roughly equivalent.
Speaking of medications, which medications can cause rhinitis? Any meds we commonly use in primary care?
Williams: Apparently the combined hormonal oral contraceptives can do it. Also the phosphodiesterase 5 (PDE-5) inhibitors. Drugs that cause vasodilation can also do it. Some of the antihypertensives. I’ve seen beta-blockers and angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors listed specifically, and some of the medications for benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). So there are a couple of medications that you can think about as a potential cause of rhinitis, although my suspicion is not going to be as high as for some of the other causes.
Watto: We mentioned medication treatments for patients who are really bothered by rhinorrhea, and maybe they are already on a steroid or an antihistamine.
You can try nasal ipratropium for people that have really prominent rhinorrhea. Dr. Fadugba said that can work well, and it’s usually taken three or four times a day. I’ve had good success prescribing it for my patients. Another one that I have never prescribed, but that Dr. Fadugba said is available over the counter, is intranasal cromolyn — a mast cell stabilizer. She said it can be beneficial.
Let’s say I had a cat allergy and I was going to visit Paul. I could use the intranasal cromolyn ahead of time to reduce rhinitis when I’m around the cats.
Paul, what about montelukast? I never know what to do with that one.
Williams: I’ve seen it prescribed as a last-ditch attempt to fix chronic rhinitis. Dr. Fadugba said she only ever prescribes it for patients who have rhinitis symptoms and asthma and never just for chronic rhinitis because it doesn’t work. And also, there have been some new black-box warnings from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). So unless there’s a solid indication for it, montelukast is not something you should just prescribe to try to see if it will work. That’s probably not the right approach for this.
But if the patient has challenging control asthma, and as a component, challenging nasal symptoms as well, it might be a reasonable medication to try.
Watto: And finally, Paul, how does climate change possibly have anything to do with rhinitis?
Williams: I feel like I’m just seeing more and more of the stuff every year. I don’t know if I’m more sensitive to it or because I’m having more symptoms myself, but it turns out the prevalence actually is going up.
We’re seeing more of it in part because it’s getting hotter outside, which is in turn worsening the production of allergens and increasing the allergen exposure and the severity of the symptoms that go along with it. More people are having more severe disease because the world is changing as a result of the stuff that we do. So fix that. But also be mindful and expect to see even more of these problems as you move forward in your careers.
Watto: Dr. Fadugba gave us so many great tips. You can listen to the full podcast episode here.
Dr. Watto, Clinical Assistant Professor, Department of Medicine, Perelman School of Medicine at University of Pennsylvania; Internist, Department of Medicine, Hospital Medicine Section, Pennsylvania Hospital, Philadelphia, has disclosed no relevant financial relationships. Dr. Williams, Associate Professor of Clinical Medicine, Department of General Internal Medicine, Lewis Katz School of Medicine; Staff Physician, Department of General Internal Medicine, Temple Internal Medicine Associates, Philadelphia, disclosed ties with The Curbsiders.
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
Cybersecurity Concerns Continue to Rise With Ransom, Data Manipulation, AI Risks
From the largest healthcare companies to solo practices, just every organization in medicine faces a risk for costly cyberattacks. In recent years, hackers have threatened to release the personal information of patients and employees — or paralyze online systems — unless they’re paid a ransom.
Should companies pay? It’s not an easy answer, a pair of experts told colleagues in an American Medical Association (AMA) cybersecurity webinar on October 18. It turns out that each choice — pay or don’t pay — can end up being costly.
This is just one of the new challenges facing the American medical system on the cybersecurity front, the speakers said. Others include the possibility that hackers will manipulate patient data — turning a medical test negative, for example, when it’s actually positive — and take advantage of the powers of artificial intelligence (AI).
The AMA held the webinar to educate physicians about cybersecurity risks and defenses, an especially hot topic in the wake of February’s Change Healthcare hack, which cost UnitedHealth Group an estimated $2.5 billion — so far — and deeply disrupted the American healthcare system.
Cautionary tales abound. Greg Garcia, executive director for cybersecurity of the Health Sector Coordinating Council, a coalition of medical industry organizations, pointed to a Pennsylvania clinic that refused to pay a ransom to prevent the release of hundreds of images of patients with breast cancer undressed from the waist up. Garcia told webinar participants that the ransom was $5 million.
Risky Choices
While the Federal Bureau of Investigation recommends against paying a ransom, this can be a risky choice, Garcia said. Hackers released the images, and the center has reportedly agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit for $65 million. “They traded $5 million for $60 million,” Garcia added, slightly misstating the settlement amount.
Health systems have been cagey about whether they’ve paid ransoms to prevent private data from being made public in cyberattacks. If a ransom is demanded, “it’s every organization for itself,” Garcia said.
He highlighted the case of a chain of psychiatry practices in Finland that suffered a ransomware attack in 2020. The hackers “contacted the patients and said: ‘Hey, call your clinic and tell them to pay the ransom. Otherwise, we’re going to release all your psychiatric notes to the public.’ ”
Cyberattacks continue. In October, Boston Children’s Health Physicians announced that it had suffered a “ recent security incident” involving data — possibly including Social Security numbers and treatment information — regarding patients and employees. A hacker group reportedly claimed responsibility and wants the system, which boasts more than 300 clinicians, to pay a ransom or else it will release the stolen information.
Should Paying Ransom Be a Crime?
Christian Dameff, MD, MS, an emergency medicine physician and director of the Center for Healthcare Cybersecurity at the University of California (UC), San Diego, noted that there are efforts to turn paying ransom into a crime. “If people aren’t paying ransoms, then ransomware operators will move to something else that makes them money.”
Dameff urged colleagues to understand we no longer live in a world where clinicians only bother to think of technology when they call the IT department to help them reset their password.
New challenges face clinicians, he said. “How do we develop better strategies, downtime procedures, and safe clinical care in an era where our vital technology may be gone, not just for an hour or 2, but as is the case with these ransomware attacks, sometimes weeks to months.”
Garcia said “cybersecurity is everybody’s responsibility, including frontline clinicians. Because you’re touching data, you’re touching technology, you’re touching patients, and all of those things combine to present some vulnerabilities in the digital world.”
Next Frontier: Hackers May Manipulate Patient Data
Dameff said future hackers may use AI to manipulate individual patient data in ways that threaten patient health. AI makes this easier to accomplish.
“What if I delete your allergies in your electronic health record, or I manipulate your chest x-ray, or I change your lab values so it looks like you’re in diabetic ketoacidosis when you’re not so a clinician gives you insulin when you don’t need it?”
Garcia highlighted another new threat: Phishing efforts that are harder to ignore thanks to AI.
“One of the most successful way that hackers get in, disrupt systems, and steal data is through email phishing, and it’s only going to get better because of artificial intelligence,” he said. “No longer are you going to have typos in that email written by a hacking group in Nigeria or in China. It’s going to be perfect looking.”
What can practices and healthcare systems do? Garcia highlighted federal health agency efforts to encourage organizations to adopt best practices in cybersecurity.
“If you’ve got a data breach, and you can show to the US Department of Health & Human Services [HHS] you have implemented generally recognized cybersecurity controls over the past year, that you have done your best, you did the right thing, and you still got hit, HHS is directed to essentially take it easy on you,” he said. “That’s a positive incentive.”
Ransomware Guide in the Works
Dameff said UC San Diego’s Center for Healthcare Cybersecurity plans to publish a free cybersecurity guide in 2025 that will include specific information about ransomware attacks for medical specialties such as cardiology, trauma surgery, and pediatrics.
“Then, should you ever be ransomed, you can pull out this guide. You’ll know what’s going to kind of happen, and you can better prepare for those effects.”
Will the future president prioritize healthcare cybersecurity? That remains to be seen, but crises do have the capacity to concentrate the mind, experts said.
The nation’s capital “has a very short memory, a short attention span. The policymakers tend to be reactive,” Dameff said. “All it takes is yet another Change Healthcare–like attack that disrupts 30% or more of the nation’s healthcare system for the policymakers to sit up, take notice, and try to come up with solutions.”
In addition, he said, an estimated two data breaches/ransomware attacks are occurring per day. “The fact is that we’re all patients, up to the President of the United States and every member of the Congress is a patient.”
There’s a “very existential, very palpable understanding that cyber safety is patient safety and cyber insecurity is patient insecurity,” Dameff said.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
From the largest healthcare companies to solo practices, just every organization in medicine faces a risk for costly cyberattacks. In recent years, hackers have threatened to release the personal information of patients and employees — or paralyze online systems — unless they’re paid a ransom.
Should companies pay? It’s not an easy answer, a pair of experts told colleagues in an American Medical Association (AMA) cybersecurity webinar on October 18. It turns out that each choice — pay or don’t pay — can end up being costly.
This is just one of the new challenges facing the American medical system on the cybersecurity front, the speakers said. Others include the possibility that hackers will manipulate patient data — turning a medical test negative, for example, when it’s actually positive — and take advantage of the powers of artificial intelligence (AI).
The AMA held the webinar to educate physicians about cybersecurity risks and defenses, an especially hot topic in the wake of February’s Change Healthcare hack, which cost UnitedHealth Group an estimated $2.5 billion — so far — and deeply disrupted the American healthcare system.
Cautionary tales abound. Greg Garcia, executive director for cybersecurity of the Health Sector Coordinating Council, a coalition of medical industry organizations, pointed to a Pennsylvania clinic that refused to pay a ransom to prevent the release of hundreds of images of patients with breast cancer undressed from the waist up. Garcia told webinar participants that the ransom was $5 million.
Risky Choices
While the Federal Bureau of Investigation recommends against paying a ransom, this can be a risky choice, Garcia said. Hackers released the images, and the center has reportedly agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit for $65 million. “They traded $5 million for $60 million,” Garcia added, slightly misstating the settlement amount.
Health systems have been cagey about whether they’ve paid ransoms to prevent private data from being made public in cyberattacks. If a ransom is demanded, “it’s every organization for itself,” Garcia said.
He highlighted the case of a chain of psychiatry practices in Finland that suffered a ransomware attack in 2020. The hackers “contacted the patients and said: ‘Hey, call your clinic and tell them to pay the ransom. Otherwise, we’re going to release all your psychiatric notes to the public.’ ”
Cyberattacks continue. In October, Boston Children’s Health Physicians announced that it had suffered a “ recent security incident” involving data — possibly including Social Security numbers and treatment information — regarding patients and employees. A hacker group reportedly claimed responsibility and wants the system, which boasts more than 300 clinicians, to pay a ransom or else it will release the stolen information.
Should Paying Ransom Be a Crime?
Christian Dameff, MD, MS, an emergency medicine physician and director of the Center for Healthcare Cybersecurity at the University of California (UC), San Diego, noted that there are efforts to turn paying ransom into a crime. “If people aren’t paying ransoms, then ransomware operators will move to something else that makes them money.”
Dameff urged colleagues to understand we no longer live in a world where clinicians only bother to think of technology when they call the IT department to help them reset their password.
New challenges face clinicians, he said. “How do we develop better strategies, downtime procedures, and safe clinical care in an era where our vital technology may be gone, not just for an hour or 2, but as is the case with these ransomware attacks, sometimes weeks to months.”
Garcia said “cybersecurity is everybody’s responsibility, including frontline clinicians. Because you’re touching data, you’re touching technology, you’re touching patients, and all of those things combine to present some vulnerabilities in the digital world.”
Next Frontier: Hackers May Manipulate Patient Data
Dameff said future hackers may use AI to manipulate individual patient data in ways that threaten patient health. AI makes this easier to accomplish.
“What if I delete your allergies in your electronic health record, or I manipulate your chest x-ray, or I change your lab values so it looks like you’re in diabetic ketoacidosis when you’re not so a clinician gives you insulin when you don’t need it?”
Garcia highlighted another new threat: Phishing efforts that are harder to ignore thanks to AI.
“One of the most successful way that hackers get in, disrupt systems, and steal data is through email phishing, and it’s only going to get better because of artificial intelligence,” he said. “No longer are you going to have typos in that email written by a hacking group in Nigeria or in China. It’s going to be perfect looking.”
What can practices and healthcare systems do? Garcia highlighted federal health agency efforts to encourage organizations to adopt best practices in cybersecurity.
“If you’ve got a data breach, and you can show to the US Department of Health & Human Services [HHS] you have implemented generally recognized cybersecurity controls over the past year, that you have done your best, you did the right thing, and you still got hit, HHS is directed to essentially take it easy on you,” he said. “That’s a positive incentive.”
Ransomware Guide in the Works
Dameff said UC San Diego’s Center for Healthcare Cybersecurity plans to publish a free cybersecurity guide in 2025 that will include specific information about ransomware attacks for medical specialties such as cardiology, trauma surgery, and pediatrics.
“Then, should you ever be ransomed, you can pull out this guide. You’ll know what’s going to kind of happen, and you can better prepare for those effects.”
Will the future president prioritize healthcare cybersecurity? That remains to be seen, but crises do have the capacity to concentrate the mind, experts said.
The nation’s capital “has a very short memory, a short attention span. The policymakers tend to be reactive,” Dameff said. “All it takes is yet another Change Healthcare–like attack that disrupts 30% or more of the nation’s healthcare system for the policymakers to sit up, take notice, and try to come up with solutions.”
In addition, he said, an estimated two data breaches/ransomware attacks are occurring per day. “The fact is that we’re all patients, up to the President of the United States and every member of the Congress is a patient.”
There’s a “very existential, very palpable understanding that cyber safety is patient safety and cyber insecurity is patient insecurity,” Dameff said.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
From the largest healthcare companies to solo practices, just every organization in medicine faces a risk for costly cyberattacks. In recent years, hackers have threatened to release the personal information of patients and employees — or paralyze online systems — unless they’re paid a ransom.
Should companies pay? It’s not an easy answer, a pair of experts told colleagues in an American Medical Association (AMA) cybersecurity webinar on October 18. It turns out that each choice — pay or don’t pay — can end up being costly.
This is just one of the new challenges facing the American medical system on the cybersecurity front, the speakers said. Others include the possibility that hackers will manipulate patient data — turning a medical test negative, for example, when it’s actually positive — and take advantage of the powers of artificial intelligence (AI).
The AMA held the webinar to educate physicians about cybersecurity risks and defenses, an especially hot topic in the wake of February’s Change Healthcare hack, which cost UnitedHealth Group an estimated $2.5 billion — so far — and deeply disrupted the American healthcare system.
Cautionary tales abound. Greg Garcia, executive director for cybersecurity of the Health Sector Coordinating Council, a coalition of medical industry organizations, pointed to a Pennsylvania clinic that refused to pay a ransom to prevent the release of hundreds of images of patients with breast cancer undressed from the waist up. Garcia told webinar participants that the ransom was $5 million.
Risky Choices
While the Federal Bureau of Investigation recommends against paying a ransom, this can be a risky choice, Garcia said. Hackers released the images, and the center has reportedly agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit for $65 million. “They traded $5 million for $60 million,” Garcia added, slightly misstating the settlement amount.
Health systems have been cagey about whether they’ve paid ransoms to prevent private data from being made public in cyberattacks. If a ransom is demanded, “it’s every organization for itself,” Garcia said.
He highlighted the case of a chain of psychiatry practices in Finland that suffered a ransomware attack in 2020. The hackers “contacted the patients and said: ‘Hey, call your clinic and tell them to pay the ransom. Otherwise, we’re going to release all your psychiatric notes to the public.’ ”
Cyberattacks continue. In October, Boston Children’s Health Physicians announced that it had suffered a “ recent security incident” involving data — possibly including Social Security numbers and treatment information — regarding patients and employees. A hacker group reportedly claimed responsibility and wants the system, which boasts more than 300 clinicians, to pay a ransom or else it will release the stolen information.
Should Paying Ransom Be a Crime?
Christian Dameff, MD, MS, an emergency medicine physician and director of the Center for Healthcare Cybersecurity at the University of California (UC), San Diego, noted that there are efforts to turn paying ransom into a crime. “If people aren’t paying ransoms, then ransomware operators will move to something else that makes them money.”
Dameff urged colleagues to understand we no longer live in a world where clinicians only bother to think of technology when they call the IT department to help them reset their password.
New challenges face clinicians, he said. “How do we develop better strategies, downtime procedures, and safe clinical care in an era where our vital technology may be gone, not just for an hour or 2, but as is the case with these ransomware attacks, sometimes weeks to months.”
Garcia said “cybersecurity is everybody’s responsibility, including frontline clinicians. Because you’re touching data, you’re touching technology, you’re touching patients, and all of those things combine to present some vulnerabilities in the digital world.”
Next Frontier: Hackers May Manipulate Patient Data
Dameff said future hackers may use AI to manipulate individual patient data in ways that threaten patient health. AI makes this easier to accomplish.
“What if I delete your allergies in your electronic health record, or I manipulate your chest x-ray, or I change your lab values so it looks like you’re in diabetic ketoacidosis when you’re not so a clinician gives you insulin when you don’t need it?”
Garcia highlighted another new threat: Phishing efforts that are harder to ignore thanks to AI.
“One of the most successful way that hackers get in, disrupt systems, and steal data is through email phishing, and it’s only going to get better because of artificial intelligence,” he said. “No longer are you going to have typos in that email written by a hacking group in Nigeria or in China. It’s going to be perfect looking.”
What can practices and healthcare systems do? Garcia highlighted federal health agency efforts to encourage organizations to adopt best practices in cybersecurity.
“If you’ve got a data breach, and you can show to the US Department of Health & Human Services [HHS] you have implemented generally recognized cybersecurity controls over the past year, that you have done your best, you did the right thing, and you still got hit, HHS is directed to essentially take it easy on you,” he said. “That’s a positive incentive.”
Ransomware Guide in the Works
Dameff said UC San Diego’s Center for Healthcare Cybersecurity plans to publish a free cybersecurity guide in 2025 that will include specific information about ransomware attacks for medical specialties such as cardiology, trauma surgery, and pediatrics.
“Then, should you ever be ransomed, you can pull out this guide. You’ll know what’s going to kind of happen, and you can better prepare for those effects.”
Will the future president prioritize healthcare cybersecurity? That remains to be seen, but crises do have the capacity to concentrate the mind, experts said.
The nation’s capital “has a very short memory, a short attention span. The policymakers tend to be reactive,” Dameff said. “All it takes is yet another Change Healthcare–like attack that disrupts 30% or more of the nation’s healthcare system for the policymakers to sit up, take notice, and try to come up with solutions.”
In addition, he said, an estimated two data breaches/ransomware attacks are occurring per day. “The fact is that we’re all patients, up to the President of the United States and every member of the Congress is a patient.”
There’s a “very existential, very palpable understanding that cyber safety is patient safety and cyber insecurity is patient insecurity,” Dameff said.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
Are Three Cycles of Chemotherapy as Effective as Six for Retinoblastoma?
TOPLINE:
The three-cycle regimen also resulted in fewer adverse events and lower costs.
METHODOLOGY:
- The introduction of chemotherapy has increased survival rates for patients with retinoblastoma, but the optimal number of postoperative adjuvant cycles remains unclear due to scant randomized clinical trial data for high-risk patients.
- In the new trial, participants at two premier eye centers in China were randomly assigned to receive either three (n = 94) or six (n = 93) cycles of carboplatin, etoposide, and vincristine (CEV) chemotherapy after enucleation.
- The primary endpoint was 5-year DFS, and the secondary endpoints were overall survival, safety, economic burden, and quality of life.
- Patients were followed up every 3 months for the first 2 years and then every 6 months thereafter, with a median follow-up of 79 months.
- Adverse events were graded using the National Cancer Institute Common Terminology Criteria for Adverse Events (version 5.0).
TAKEAWAY:
- The 5-year DFS rates were 90.4% and 89.2% for the three- and six-cycle groups, respectively, meeting the noninferiority criterion (P = .003).
- The six-cycle group experienced a higher frequency of adverse events, including neutropenia, anemia, and nausea, than the three-cycle group.
- The quality-of-life scores were higher in the three-cycle group, particularly in physical, emotional, and social functioning parameters.
- The total, direct, and indirect costs were significantly lower in the three-cycle group than in the six-cycle group.
IN PRACTICE:
“A three-cycle CEV regimen demonstrated noninferiority, compared with a six-cycle approach, and was and proved to be an efficacious adjuvant chemotherapy regimen for individuals diagnosed with pathologically high-risk retinoblastoma,” the authors of the study wrote.
In an accompanying editorial, Ning Li, MD, and colleagues wrote that the findings “could lead to changes in clinical practice, reducing treatment burden and costs without compromising patient outcomes.”
SOURCE:
This study was led by Huijing Ye, MD, PhD, State Key Laboratory of Ophthalmology, Zhongshan Ophthalmic Center, Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China. Both the study and editorial were published online in JAMA.
LIMITATIONS:
The open-label design of the study might introduce bias, although an independent, blinded committee evaluated the clinical outcomes. The 12% noninferiority margin was notably substantial, considering the rarity of retinoblastoma and the wide range of survival rates. The criteria for adjuvant therapy, especially regarding choroidal invasion, were debatable and required further follow-up to clarify the prognosis related to various pathologic features.
DISCLOSURES:
This study was supported by the Sun Yat-Sen University Clinical Research 5010 Program and the Shanghai Committee of Science and Technology. No relevant conflict of interest was disclosed by the authors of the paper or the editorial.
This article was created using several editorial tools, including AI, as part of the process. Human editors reviewed this content before publication. A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
TOPLINE:
The three-cycle regimen also resulted in fewer adverse events and lower costs.
METHODOLOGY:
- The introduction of chemotherapy has increased survival rates for patients with retinoblastoma, but the optimal number of postoperative adjuvant cycles remains unclear due to scant randomized clinical trial data for high-risk patients.
- In the new trial, participants at two premier eye centers in China were randomly assigned to receive either three (n = 94) or six (n = 93) cycles of carboplatin, etoposide, and vincristine (CEV) chemotherapy after enucleation.
- The primary endpoint was 5-year DFS, and the secondary endpoints were overall survival, safety, economic burden, and quality of life.
- Patients were followed up every 3 months for the first 2 years and then every 6 months thereafter, with a median follow-up of 79 months.
- Adverse events were graded using the National Cancer Institute Common Terminology Criteria for Adverse Events (version 5.0).
TAKEAWAY:
- The 5-year DFS rates were 90.4% and 89.2% for the three- and six-cycle groups, respectively, meeting the noninferiority criterion (P = .003).
- The six-cycle group experienced a higher frequency of adverse events, including neutropenia, anemia, and nausea, than the three-cycle group.
- The quality-of-life scores were higher in the three-cycle group, particularly in physical, emotional, and social functioning parameters.
- The total, direct, and indirect costs were significantly lower in the three-cycle group than in the six-cycle group.
IN PRACTICE:
“A three-cycle CEV regimen demonstrated noninferiority, compared with a six-cycle approach, and was and proved to be an efficacious adjuvant chemotherapy regimen for individuals diagnosed with pathologically high-risk retinoblastoma,” the authors of the study wrote.
In an accompanying editorial, Ning Li, MD, and colleagues wrote that the findings “could lead to changes in clinical practice, reducing treatment burden and costs without compromising patient outcomes.”
SOURCE:
This study was led by Huijing Ye, MD, PhD, State Key Laboratory of Ophthalmology, Zhongshan Ophthalmic Center, Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China. Both the study and editorial were published online in JAMA.
LIMITATIONS:
The open-label design of the study might introduce bias, although an independent, blinded committee evaluated the clinical outcomes. The 12% noninferiority margin was notably substantial, considering the rarity of retinoblastoma and the wide range of survival rates. The criteria for adjuvant therapy, especially regarding choroidal invasion, were debatable and required further follow-up to clarify the prognosis related to various pathologic features.
DISCLOSURES:
This study was supported by the Sun Yat-Sen University Clinical Research 5010 Program and the Shanghai Committee of Science and Technology. No relevant conflict of interest was disclosed by the authors of the paper or the editorial.
This article was created using several editorial tools, including AI, as part of the process. Human editors reviewed this content before publication. A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
TOPLINE:
The three-cycle regimen also resulted in fewer adverse events and lower costs.
METHODOLOGY:
- The introduction of chemotherapy has increased survival rates for patients with retinoblastoma, but the optimal number of postoperative adjuvant cycles remains unclear due to scant randomized clinical trial data for high-risk patients.
- In the new trial, participants at two premier eye centers in China were randomly assigned to receive either three (n = 94) or six (n = 93) cycles of carboplatin, etoposide, and vincristine (CEV) chemotherapy after enucleation.
- The primary endpoint was 5-year DFS, and the secondary endpoints were overall survival, safety, economic burden, and quality of life.
- Patients were followed up every 3 months for the first 2 years and then every 6 months thereafter, with a median follow-up of 79 months.
- Adverse events were graded using the National Cancer Institute Common Terminology Criteria for Adverse Events (version 5.0).
TAKEAWAY:
- The 5-year DFS rates were 90.4% and 89.2% for the three- and six-cycle groups, respectively, meeting the noninferiority criterion (P = .003).
- The six-cycle group experienced a higher frequency of adverse events, including neutropenia, anemia, and nausea, than the three-cycle group.
- The quality-of-life scores were higher in the three-cycle group, particularly in physical, emotional, and social functioning parameters.
- The total, direct, and indirect costs were significantly lower in the three-cycle group than in the six-cycle group.
IN PRACTICE:
“A three-cycle CEV regimen demonstrated noninferiority, compared with a six-cycle approach, and was and proved to be an efficacious adjuvant chemotherapy regimen for individuals diagnosed with pathologically high-risk retinoblastoma,” the authors of the study wrote.
In an accompanying editorial, Ning Li, MD, and colleagues wrote that the findings “could lead to changes in clinical practice, reducing treatment burden and costs without compromising patient outcomes.”
SOURCE:
This study was led by Huijing Ye, MD, PhD, State Key Laboratory of Ophthalmology, Zhongshan Ophthalmic Center, Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China. Both the study and editorial were published online in JAMA.
LIMITATIONS:
The open-label design of the study might introduce bias, although an independent, blinded committee evaluated the clinical outcomes. The 12% noninferiority margin was notably substantial, considering the rarity of retinoblastoma and the wide range of survival rates. The criteria for adjuvant therapy, especially regarding choroidal invasion, were debatable and required further follow-up to clarify the prognosis related to various pathologic features.
DISCLOSURES:
This study was supported by the Sun Yat-Sen University Clinical Research 5010 Program and the Shanghai Committee of Science and Technology. No relevant conflict of interest was disclosed by the authors of the paper or the editorial.
This article was created using several editorial tools, including AI, as part of the process. Human editors reviewed this content before publication. A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
Six Tips for Media Interviews
As a physician, you might be contacted by the media to provide your professional opinion and advice. Or you might be looking for media interview opportunities to market your practice or side project. And if you do research, media interviews can be an effective way to spread the word. It’s important to prepare for a media interview so that you achieve the outcome you are looking for.
Keep your message simple. When you are a subject expert, you might think that the basics are obvious or even boring, and that the nuances are more important. However, most of the audience is looking for big-picture information that they can apply to their lives. Consider a few key takeaways, keeping in mind that your interview is likely to be edited to short sound bites or a few quotes. It may help to jot down notes so that you cover the fundamentals clearly. You could even write and rehearse a script beforehand. If there is something complicated or subtle that you want to convey, you can preface it by saying, “This is confusing but very important …” to let the audience know to give extra consideration to what you are about to say.
Avoid extremes and hyperbole. Sometimes, exaggerated statements make their way into medical discussions. Statements such as “it doesn’t matter how many calories you consume — it’s all about the quality” are common oversimplifications. But you might be upset to see your name next to a comment like this because it is not actually correct. Check the phrasing of your key takeaways to avoid being stuck defending or explaining an inaccurate statement when your patients ask you about it later.
Ask the interviewers what they are looking for. Many medical topics have some controversial element, so it is good to know what you’re getting into. Find out the purpose of the article or interview before you decide whether it is right for you. It could be about another doctor in town who is being sued; if you don’t want to be associated with that story, it might be best to decline the interview.
Explain your goals. You might accept or pursue an interview to raise awareness about an underrecognized condition. You might want the public to identify and get help for early symptoms, or you might want to create empathy for people coping with a disease you treat. Consider why you are participating in an interview, and communicate that to the interviewer to ensure that your objective can be part of the final product.
Know whom you’re dealing with. It is good to learn about the publication/media channel before you agree to participate. It may have a political bias, or perhaps the interview is intended to promote a specific product. If you agree with and support their purposes, then you may be happy to lend your opinion. But learning about the “voice” of the publication in advance allows you to make an informed decision about whether you want to be identified with a particular political ideology or product endorsement.
Ask to see your quotes before publication. It’s good to have the opportunity to make corrections in case you are accidentally misquoted or misunderstood. It is best to ask to see quotes before you agree to the interview. Some reporters may agree to (or even prefer) a written question-and-answer format so that they can directly quote your responses without rephrasing your words. You could suggest this, especially if you are too busy for a call or live meeting.
As a physician, your insights and advice can be highly beneficial to others. You can also use media interviews to propel your career forward. Doing your homework can ensure that you will be pleased with the final product and how your words were used.
Dr. Moawad, Clinical Assistant Professor, Department of Medical Education, Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, Cleveland, Ohio, has disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
As a physician, you might be contacted by the media to provide your professional opinion and advice. Or you might be looking for media interview opportunities to market your practice or side project. And if you do research, media interviews can be an effective way to spread the word. It’s important to prepare for a media interview so that you achieve the outcome you are looking for.
Keep your message simple. When you are a subject expert, you might think that the basics are obvious or even boring, and that the nuances are more important. However, most of the audience is looking for big-picture information that they can apply to their lives. Consider a few key takeaways, keeping in mind that your interview is likely to be edited to short sound bites or a few quotes. It may help to jot down notes so that you cover the fundamentals clearly. You could even write and rehearse a script beforehand. If there is something complicated or subtle that you want to convey, you can preface it by saying, “This is confusing but very important …” to let the audience know to give extra consideration to what you are about to say.
Avoid extremes and hyperbole. Sometimes, exaggerated statements make their way into medical discussions. Statements such as “it doesn’t matter how many calories you consume — it’s all about the quality” are common oversimplifications. But you might be upset to see your name next to a comment like this because it is not actually correct. Check the phrasing of your key takeaways to avoid being stuck defending or explaining an inaccurate statement when your patients ask you about it later.
Ask the interviewers what they are looking for. Many medical topics have some controversial element, so it is good to know what you’re getting into. Find out the purpose of the article or interview before you decide whether it is right for you. It could be about another doctor in town who is being sued; if you don’t want to be associated with that story, it might be best to decline the interview.
Explain your goals. You might accept or pursue an interview to raise awareness about an underrecognized condition. You might want the public to identify and get help for early symptoms, or you might want to create empathy for people coping with a disease you treat. Consider why you are participating in an interview, and communicate that to the interviewer to ensure that your objective can be part of the final product.
Know whom you’re dealing with. It is good to learn about the publication/media channel before you agree to participate. It may have a political bias, or perhaps the interview is intended to promote a specific product. If you agree with and support their purposes, then you may be happy to lend your opinion. But learning about the “voice” of the publication in advance allows you to make an informed decision about whether you want to be identified with a particular political ideology or product endorsement.
Ask to see your quotes before publication. It’s good to have the opportunity to make corrections in case you are accidentally misquoted or misunderstood. It is best to ask to see quotes before you agree to the interview. Some reporters may agree to (or even prefer) a written question-and-answer format so that they can directly quote your responses without rephrasing your words. You could suggest this, especially if you are too busy for a call or live meeting.
As a physician, your insights and advice can be highly beneficial to others. You can also use media interviews to propel your career forward. Doing your homework can ensure that you will be pleased with the final product and how your words were used.
Dr. Moawad, Clinical Assistant Professor, Department of Medical Education, Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, Cleveland, Ohio, has disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
As a physician, you might be contacted by the media to provide your professional opinion and advice. Or you might be looking for media interview opportunities to market your practice or side project. And if you do research, media interviews can be an effective way to spread the word. It’s important to prepare for a media interview so that you achieve the outcome you are looking for.
Keep your message simple. When you are a subject expert, you might think that the basics are obvious or even boring, and that the nuances are more important. However, most of the audience is looking for big-picture information that they can apply to their lives. Consider a few key takeaways, keeping in mind that your interview is likely to be edited to short sound bites or a few quotes. It may help to jot down notes so that you cover the fundamentals clearly. You could even write and rehearse a script beforehand. If there is something complicated or subtle that you want to convey, you can preface it by saying, “This is confusing but very important …” to let the audience know to give extra consideration to what you are about to say.
Avoid extremes and hyperbole. Sometimes, exaggerated statements make their way into medical discussions. Statements such as “it doesn’t matter how many calories you consume — it’s all about the quality” are common oversimplifications. But you might be upset to see your name next to a comment like this because it is not actually correct. Check the phrasing of your key takeaways to avoid being stuck defending or explaining an inaccurate statement when your patients ask you about it later.
Ask the interviewers what they are looking for. Many medical topics have some controversial element, so it is good to know what you’re getting into. Find out the purpose of the article or interview before you decide whether it is right for you. It could be about another doctor in town who is being sued; if you don’t want to be associated with that story, it might be best to decline the interview.
Explain your goals. You might accept or pursue an interview to raise awareness about an underrecognized condition. You might want the public to identify and get help for early symptoms, or you might want to create empathy for people coping with a disease you treat. Consider why you are participating in an interview, and communicate that to the interviewer to ensure that your objective can be part of the final product.
Know whom you’re dealing with. It is good to learn about the publication/media channel before you agree to participate. It may have a political bias, or perhaps the interview is intended to promote a specific product. If you agree with and support their purposes, then you may be happy to lend your opinion. But learning about the “voice” of the publication in advance allows you to make an informed decision about whether you want to be identified with a particular political ideology or product endorsement.
Ask to see your quotes before publication. It’s good to have the opportunity to make corrections in case you are accidentally misquoted or misunderstood. It is best to ask to see quotes before you agree to the interview. Some reporters may agree to (or even prefer) a written question-and-answer format so that they can directly quote your responses without rephrasing your words. You could suggest this, especially if you are too busy for a call or live meeting.
As a physician, your insights and advice can be highly beneficial to others. You can also use media interviews to propel your career forward. Doing your homework can ensure that you will be pleased with the final product and how your words were used.
Dr. Moawad, Clinical Assistant Professor, Department of Medical Education, Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, Cleveland, Ohio, has disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.