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– The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics forecasts a 40% increase in the NP workforce by 2031, coupled with a 28% rise in PAs.
In recent reports on the quality of the relationships involving these health care professions, survey respondents mostly gave positive accounts of collaboration, using words such as like “comradery,” “teamwork,” “congenial,” and “cohesion.” But all was not perfect. Where and how could these important health care provider relationships improve?
PAs: “Competition and collaboration’ with RNs
In a Medscape survey of more than 770 PAs about their working relationships with other health care professionals; 83% of them supported the idea of PAs and NPs practicing more independently from physicians, but sometimes it’s not easy to stay in their individual lanes.
One PA respondent complained that NPs get “more opportunities and preference,” another pointed to PA-NP “turf issues,” and a third griped about NPs’ “strong unions,” which have stoked more fighting about practice abilities and available settings.
Robert Blumm, MA, PA-C, a retired surgical and emergency medicine PA who regards himself as an advocate for both PAs and NPs, describes their interaction as a “mixture of competition and collaboration.”
On one hand, the two groups typically “cooperate and do an excellent job, incurring patient errors similar to or less than physician colleagues or senior residents.” On the other hand, Mr. Blumm conceded, there is some jealousy among PAs over NPs’ advantage in staffing and hiring decisions, “since they don’t need [direct physician] supervision ... and there are limits on how many PAs can be supervised by one physician.”
Most PA-NP interactions are collaborative, although many people emphasize the relatively few conflicts, said Jennifer Orozco, DMSc, PA-C, president and chair of the American Academy of PAs.
“We see that a lot in this country,” she said. “People try to drive a wedge, but it’s often a misnomer that there’s a lot of arguing and infighting.”
NPs: Different backgrounds, same goal
The Medscape survey also included information from 750 NPs on working relationships; 93% of them favored nurses and PAs working more independently from doctors.
April Kapu, DNP, ARPN, has worked closely with PAs for more than 20 years. “In my experience ... they complement one another as health team members, although the education and training are somewhat different,” said Ms. Kapu, , president of the American Association of Nurse Practitioners.
Some respondents noted the different educational trajectories for NPs and PAs. “Doctors and PAs are taught using the same model, but NPs are taught under the nursing model,” wrote a family medicine PA.
In emergency departments where Mr. Blumm has worked, ICU NPs have an edge over PAs in terms of preparation, organization, and the tabulation of formulas. On the other hand, some of Mr. Blumm’s fellow PAs were also emergency medicine technicians or respiratory therapists, who had “2 years of classroom training, on par with that of medical students.”
Must these differences in training and education foment conflict between NPs and PAs? “We all bring something different to the table,” said Ms. Kapu, who also is associate dean for clinical and community partnerships at Vanderbilt University, Nashville, Tenn. “It is important to respect each person’s entry point, education, and training.”
Differing personalities and environments
Numerous PA respondents said that individual personalities and work environments are more likely to trigger issues with NPs than are differences in training.
“It depends on the team and situation and who the people are, not the letters behind their names,” an emergency medicine PA wrote. A surgical PA noted that “group dynamics and work culture differ from place to place,” while a third PA agreed that “it’s personality dependent, not title dependent.”
No single formula will resolve areas of NP-PA conflict, Ms. Orozco said. “What works in Chicago might not work in rural Colorado or Texas or California, but we do have to come together. The overall focus should be on greater flexibility for PAs and NPs. Patients will fare better.”
Joint research, publishing could help
About a decade ago, Mr. Blumm joined with another PA and an NP to form the American College of Clinicians, the first joint PA-NP national professional organization. Although it disbanded after 6 years, owing to low membership, he hopes a similar collaboration will take off in the future.
“I also recommend that PAs and NPs publish articles together, with research as an excellent place to start,” he added. “PAs and NPs should stand together and be a source of healing for all our patients. Regardless of our titles, our responsibility is to bring healing together.”
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
– The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics forecasts a 40% increase in the NP workforce by 2031, coupled with a 28% rise in PAs.
In recent reports on the quality of the relationships involving these health care professions, survey respondents mostly gave positive accounts of collaboration, using words such as like “comradery,” “teamwork,” “congenial,” and “cohesion.” But all was not perfect. Where and how could these important health care provider relationships improve?
PAs: “Competition and collaboration’ with RNs
In a Medscape survey of more than 770 PAs about their working relationships with other health care professionals; 83% of them supported the idea of PAs and NPs practicing more independently from physicians, but sometimes it’s not easy to stay in their individual lanes.
One PA respondent complained that NPs get “more opportunities and preference,” another pointed to PA-NP “turf issues,” and a third griped about NPs’ “strong unions,” which have stoked more fighting about practice abilities and available settings.
Robert Blumm, MA, PA-C, a retired surgical and emergency medicine PA who regards himself as an advocate for both PAs and NPs, describes their interaction as a “mixture of competition and collaboration.”
On one hand, the two groups typically “cooperate and do an excellent job, incurring patient errors similar to or less than physician colleagues or senior residents.” On the other hand, Mr. Blumm conceded, there is some jealousy among PAs over NPs’ advantage in staffing and hiring decisions, “since they don’t need [direct physician] supervision ... and there are limits on how many PAs can be supervised by one physician.”
Most PA-NP interactions are collaborative, although many people emphasize the relatively few conflicts, said Jennifer Orozco, DMSc, PA-C, president and chair of the American Academy of PAs.
“We see that a lot in this country,” she said. “People try to drive a wedge, but it’s often a misnomer that there’s a lot of arguing and infighting.”
NPs: Different backgrounds, same goal
The Medscape survey also included information from 750 NPs on working relationships; 93% of them favored nurses and PAs working more independently from doctors.
April Kapu, DNP, ARPN, has worked closely with PAs for more than 20 years. “In my experience ... they complement one another as health team members, although the education and training are somewhat different,” said Ms. Kapu, , president of the American Association of Nurse Practitioners.
Some respondents noted the different educational trajectories for NPs and PAs. “Doctors and PAs are taught using the same model, but NPs are taught under the nursing model,” wrote a family medicine PA.
In emergency departments where Mr. Blumm has worked, ICU NPs have an edge over PAs in terms of preparation, organization, and the tabulation of formulas. On the other hand, some of Mr. Blumm’s fellow PAs were also emergency medicine technicians or respiratory therapists, who had “2 years of classroom training, on par with that of medical students.”
Must these differences in training and education foment conflict between NPs and PAs? “We all bring something different to the table,” said Ms. Kapu, who also is associate dean for clinical and community partnerships at Vanderbilt University, Nashville, Tenn. “It is important to respect each person’s entry point, education, and training.”
Differing personalities and environments
Numerous PA respondents said that individual personalities and work environments are more likely to trigger issues with NPs than are differences in training.
“It depends on the team and situation and who the people are, not the letters behind their names,” an emergency medicine PA wrote. A surgical PA noted that “group dynamics and work culture differ from place to place,” while a third PA agreed that “it’s personality dependent, not title dependent.”
No single formula will resolve areas of NP-PA conflict, Ms. Orozco said. “What works in Chicago might not work in rural Colorado or Texas or California, but we do have to come together. The overall focus should be on greater flexibility for PAs and NPs. Patients will fare better.”
Joint research, publishing could help
About a decade ago, Mr. Blumm joined with another PA and an NP to form the American College of Clinicians, the first joint PA-NP national professional organization. Although it disbanded after 6 years, owing to low membership, he hopes a similar collaboration will take off in the future.
“I also recommend that PAs and NPs publish articles together, with research as an excellent place to start,” he added. “PAs and NPs should stand together and be a source of healing for all our patients. Regardless of our titles, our responsibility is to bring healing together.”
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
– The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics forecasts a 40% increase in the NP workforce by 2031, coupled with a 28% rise in PAs.
In recent reports on the quality of the relationships involving these health care professions, survey respondents mostly gave positive accounts of collaboration, using words such as like “comradery,” “teamwork,” “congenial,” and “cohesion.” But all was not perfect. Where and how could these important health care provider relationships improve?
PAs: “Competition and collaboration’ with RNs
In a Medscape survey of more than 770 PAs about their working relationships with other health care professionals; 83% of them supported the idea of PAs and NPs practicing more independently from physicians, but sometimes it’s not easy to stay in their individual lanes.
One PA respondent complained that NPs get “more opportunities and preference,” another pointed to PA-NP “turf issues,” and a third griped about NPs’ “strong unions,” which have stoked more fighting about practice abilities and available settings.
Robert Blumm, MA, PA-C, a retired surgical and emergency medicine PA who regards himself as an advocate for both PAs and NPs, describes their interaction as a “mixture of competition and collaboration.”
On one hand, the two groups typically “cooperate and do an excellent job, incurring patient errors similar to or less than physician colleagues or senior residents.” On the other hand, Mr. Blumm conceded, there is some jealousy among PAs over NPs’ advantage in staffing and hiring decisions, “since they don’t need [direct physician] supervision ... and there are limits on how many PAs can be supervised by one physician.”
Most PA-NP interactions are collaborative, although many people emphasize the relatively few conflicts, said Jennifer Orozco, DMSc, PA-C, president and chair of the American Academy of PAs.
“We see that a lot in this country,” she said. “People try to drive a wedge, but it’s often a misnomer that there’s a lot of arguing and infighting.”
NPs: Different backgrounds, same goal
The Medscape survey also included information from 750 NPs on working relationships; 93% of them favored nurses and PAs working more independently from doctors.
April Kapu, DNP, ARPN, has worked closely with PAs for more than 20 years. “In my experience ... they complement one another as health team members, although the education and training are somewhat different,” said Ms. Kapu, , president of the American Association of Nurse Practitioners.
Some respondents noted the different educational trajectories for NPs and PAs. “Doctors and PAs are taught using the same model, but NPs are taught under the nursing model,” wrote a family medicine PA.
In emergency departments where Mr. Blumm has worked, ICU NPs have an edge over PAs in terms of preparation, organization, and the tabulation of formulas. On the other hand, some of Mr. Blumm’s fellow PAs were also emergency medicine technicians or respiratory therapists, who had “2 years of classroom training, on par with that of medical students.”
Must these differences in training and education foment conflict between NPs and PAs? “We all bring something different to the table,” said Ms. Kapu, who also is associate dean for clinical and community partnerships at Vanderbilt University, Nashville, Tenn. “It is important to respect each person’s entry point, education, and training.”
Differing personalities and environments
Numerous PA respondents said that individual personalities and work environments are more likely to trigger issues with NPs than are differences in training.
“It depends on the team and situation and who the people are, not the letters behind their names,” an emergency medicine PA wrote. A surgical PA noted that “group dynamics and work culture differ from place to place,” while a third PA agreed that “it’s personality dependent, not title dependent.”
No single formula will resolve areas of NP-PA conflict, Ms. Orozco said. “What works in Chicago might not work in rural Colorado or Texas or California, but we do have to come together. The overall focus should be on greater flexibility for PAs and NPs. Patients will fare better.”
Joint research, publishing could help
About a decade ago, Mr. Blumm joined with another PA and an NP to form the American College of Clinicians, the first joint PA-NP national professional organization. Although it disbanded after 6 years, owing to low membership, he hopes a similar collaboration will take off in the future.
“I also recommend that PAs and NPs publish articles together, with research as an excellent place to start,” he added. “PAs and NPs should stand together and be a source of healing for all our patients. Regardless of our titles, our responsibility is to bring healing together.”
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.